11/8/09

David Jeremiah And His All-Seeing Eye: What Is Up?

Casting a spell on you...

"The eye plays a most important part in occult symbolism and probably owes its origin in western magical designs to the Eye of Horus, which was one of the most frequently used of Egyptian magical symbols" (Occultist Fredrick Goodman; Magical Symbols p. 101).

David Jeremiah speaking at his home church, Shadow Mountain Community Church in San Diego, Ca.


Eye of Horus

"The All-seeing eye originated in Egypt in those Satanic Mysteries which God physically judged during the time of Moses, when he lead the Israelites out of the land by the mighty hand of God. The All-Seeing Eye was representative of the omniscience of Horus, the Sun God" [Magic Symbols, by Frederick Goodman, p. 103, Satanic symbols book].

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Something Shadowy at 'Shadow Mountain'

What is wrong with this picture?

The picture is of well known TV/radio pastor, evangelist, and author David Jeremiah speaking to his congregation at his home church in San Diego, California. The church is named Shadow Mountain Community Church. Jeremiah is widely accepted as a leading figure in the evangelical Christian world today, although his contemplative (heretical) leanings [for example] of late have been pretty well documented. Here is one source to research this yourself, if interested: lighthouse trails research

Jeremiah's teaching is another subject for another time, Lord willing, and not the purpose of this post. The only comment at this time along these lines would be to say that while Jeremiah's teaching usually seems to be solid to most hearers, it is regularly interspersed with very subtle deviations from scriptural truth. One very crucial area where this is evident is a seemingly intentional blurring of the distinction between the doctrines of the 'rapture' and the 'second coming'. These two very separate events are being slyly blended together. Discern for yourself whether or not this be true. But should any object to that evaluation as being offered without evidence, let them first answer the question(s) posed here, for this question is pressing, and it is the purpose of this post.

The question is this: Why does Jeremiah have an occult 'all seeing eye' mosaic as the dominating feature in the Shadow Mountain church sanctuary? If you have seen the broadcast you may or may not have noticed this. The people in the church are apparently completely unaware of the significance of the fact that he is 'preaching' virtually from underneath the occult 'all-seeing eye', and that they are literally being made to worship before an 'image' - a symbol of an idol - an abomination standing where it ought not [cf. Mark 13:14].

Something is very wrong with this picture.

First, what about this ubiquitous all-seeing eye? In the dark magic of the occult, symbols are always used to represent spiritual things. The occult practitioners believe that the symbols have powers, and they use them for this reason. Again, the intent is not to delve into a comprehensive study of symbols, but to bring out the simple fact that those who use symbols are doing so for a reason. Here are a few quotes from some of these practitioners themselves:

[quote] “Symbolism is the language of the Mysteries ... By symbols men have ever sought to communicate to each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations of language. Rejecting man-conceived dialects as inadequate and unworthy to perpetuate divine ideas, the Mysteries thus chose symbolism as a far more ingenious and ideal method of preserving their transcendental knowledge. In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

[quote]:"All occult symbolism is in fact dualistic in meaning or interpretation, in that, it has an exoteric or outward meaning (known to the masses) and an esoteric or hidden meaning (known only to the elect few). Occultist Fredrick Goodman in his book 'Magical Symbols' (p. 6) explains: "The true magic symbol is an image which hides an inner meaning.": [secretsofmasons.com]

The inner meaning in this instance is that the 'image' of the ubiquitous all-seeing eye is not just artwork, but is the "eye of Horus" (Satan):

1. Known as the "Eye of Horus" or "Utchat Eye," it [the all-seeing eye] is associated with both the Egyptian God Horus (god of war) and his father Osiris (who along with Isis comprise the Egyptian Triad). (1) J. C. Cooper, An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols, 1995, pg. 62

2. Albert Pike, Masonic Grand Commander admitted, "...the All-seeing eye,...to the Egyptian initiates was the emblem of Osiris, the Creator." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, 1966, pp. 15-16 (i.e. masonic 'bible'); Pike was the 'Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the thirty-third degree (Mother council of the World) and Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry']


3. Called the "mal ochio" (evil eye), this object is regarded by all Satanists as the symbol of Lucifer. William J. Schnoebelen/James R. Spencer, Whited Sepulchers, 1990, p. 20 (1,2,3 @ http://libertytothecaptives.net/all_seeing_eye.html)

Apart from those who would plead ignorance, the true meaning of the 'eye' and it's identification with the world of the occult is generally beyond dispute, but, what then is the occult purpose for the use of this 'symbol' of the all-seeing eye?

[quote] As one Masonic book says, "These considerations lead us to an interesting topic, the Eye of Mind or the Eye of Horus ... and conveying the idea of the 'All seeing Eye'. The end set before the Egyptian neophyte was illumination, that is to be 'brought to light'. The Religion of Egypt was the Religion of the Light". [Thomas Milton Stewart, The Symbolism of the Gods of the Egyptians and the Light They Throw on Freemasonry, London, England, Baskerville Press, Ltd., 1927, p. 5]

In the mind of the occultist then, the use of the symbol is in it's power to "illuminate" the neophyte, the unlearned, so as to bring them to the "religion of light". Which leads then to the next question: What exactly is the "religion of light"?

[quote]: "Albert Pike writes in Morals and Dogma [Masonic 'bible'] that Lucifer is the "light-bearer" [p. 321, teachings of the 19th Degree], and is the "Angel of Light" on p. 567, teachings of the 26th Degree]." (http://www.justdosh.com/book%20preview%208.htm)

"...in Egyptian Mythology, Horus IS Lucifer [Former Satanist, William Schnoebelen, Masonry: Beyond The Light, p. 197]"

Understanding the statements of the two 'experts' quoted directly above, this "religion of light", emanating from ancient Egypt, is nothing less than the outright worship of Lucifer. It was back then, it is today still. The reality is that this 'religion' is Luciferianism, and the predominant symbol for it is the 'eye of Horus', aka Lucifer. Truly, this is a clear fact.

This 'one eye' is absolutely everywhere today, from corporate logos to an unceasing bombardment in movies and on television programs and commercials. On the television, clever camera angles and partially shaded faces are used to endlessly flash the 'one eyed' curse. If you watch for it, you will be astounded.

Generally speaking, according to the quoted masonic sources above, it is fair to say that the secret society/occultists are using the 'eye of Horus' in an effort to do what they would describe as 'illuminating' the masses, so as to bring them to the 'religion of light'. Much more accurate to say though, and the truth of the matter, is that in their minds it is to literally 'cast a spell' on the ignorant masses, subliminally flooding their subconscious minds with the power of their symbol, for the purpose of preparing the world for the arrival of their Anti-christ.

Back to the original question. Why is David Jeremiah preaching 'his message' from under the Luciferian 'all-seeing eye', and broadcasting it across the globe?

1JOHN 4:1 'Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.'
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Another problem. The "Horned Hand", El Cornuto or The Mano Cornuto: It is a widely known Satanic salute of recognition. It is not a normative position for the human hand. The hand does not naturally take this position. It is no more of a normal hand position than is the universally recognized sign of 'flipping the bird'. It has to be consciously formed. Many people obviously do this without any intent of showing any willful allegiance to the Devil. To them it is basically "party on dude". Regardless of that, many, from rock stars to high ranking politicians to wealthy celebrities use the horned hand knowingly as a semi-secret sign to each other, and as a recognition of the source of their 'power' (for instance). A google of 'horned hand' will provide ample evidence for any who want to investigate the matter further.



Here then is the next question. And while it is not really a pleasant one to have to consider, at the same time, taking everything into consideration, it is a fair question: Is David Jeremiah, preaching here from under the watchful gaze of the all-seeing eye of the NWO Antichrist, as this sequence of photos show [clipped from video], making the 'horned hand' signal?

You be the judge, you be the jury.

(note also that the right hand appears to be 'hidden' - see bottom of page for more on this and other questionable hand signs/arm formations)
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For a compelling and thought provoking comparison, here is an interesting photo. This stained-glass window is in the prayer room in the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington D.C. [here]

Shown kneeling in prayer is master mason George Washington. Above his head the banner states "This Nation Under God". Above that banner though, is the reverse side of so-called "great seal of the United States", with the 'Eye of Horus' radiating 'light', and holding the preeminent position in the Capitol Building prayer room. (The front side of the 'seal' is below Washington)

So we have George Washington on one knee in prayer, under the 'Eye of Horus', in the U.S. Capitol's prayer room.

Seeing this, should it not be presumed that a 'hidden message' could also be found in the symbolism of this stained glass window? Which begs the question: Is this symbolism revealing that the 'god' under which 'this nation' was founded is actually 'Horus' i.e. Lucifer?

This quote from the 'Masonic Lodge of Education' may provide some
'illuminaton' on the questions raised in this post:

The All Seeing Eye, like many other Masonic symbols, has been borrowed from the past from the nations of antiquity...The Egyptian God, Osiris: The Egyptians represented Osiris, their chief deity, by the symbol of an open eye and placed this hieroglyphic of him in all their temples. http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/masonic-eye.html


"All their temples"? Does that include the U.S. Capitol, and Shadow Mountain Community Church?

1 John 1:6 'If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth'
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Pertinent to the case, here now are a few insightful words from many years past on the subject in question, which should also prove to be thought provoking:

The Trial Of Spirits - Both In Teachers And Hearers Wherein Is Held Forth The Clear Discovery, And Certain Downfall, Of The Carnal And Anti Christian Clergy Of These Nations

Testified from the Word of God, to the University in Cambridge, by William Dell, Minister of the Gospel, and Master of Gonvil and Caius College, In Cambridge, London, Printed in 1666, Philadelphia, Reprinted by Benjamin Franklin and D. Hall in 1760

This section, from the above booklet printed by Benjamin Franklin, serves as a history lesson on false prophets and false teachers that we need to heed today. Why take to heart William Dell and his exegesis of the Word of God? Because what he described is EXACTLY what we are seeing today being played out with the likes of Rick Warren and the purpose drivers, the so-called New Apostolic Reformation, and the 'emerging church'/global spiritualists, all together comprising a whole host of false apostles, prophets and teachers.
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William Dell on 'False Prophets'

Wherefore we declare unto you from the Word of the Lord, touching these false prophets, who shall do so much mischief:

1. That they shall not proceed, or come forth from among the...Turks, or out of the barbarous Nations, they shall arise out of such as are called Christians.

2. Seeing amongst the Christians some are openly profane and evil, others seem to be religious and godly, the false prophets shall be found among the better sort; and therefore, saith Christ, they shall come in "sheeps clothing", as if they were of Christ's own flock: And Paul saith "They have a form of Godliness", that is, they shall be painted over gloriously, with all appearances of Truth, righteousness, honesty, goodness and all the names of godliness.

3. Seeing amongst those that seem to be the better sort of Christians, some give themselves to the ministry of the Word, and some do not; the false prophets shall be found among those Christians, who take upon themselves to be preachers, as Paul testifies (Acts 20) where having called together the elders and teachers of the church of Ephesus, he saith to them, "Ex vobis ipsis; Out of your ownselves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them".

And seeing among those who are ministers, some are light, and vain, and carnal, and formal persons; and other men of great worth and reputation, and seem to be precious members of Christ, and even pillars in the Church, so that the common people think, that all religion would go down with such good men; they having some gifts and enlightenings of the spirit, and seeming more than ordinarily godly, religious, wise, holy, sober, devout; now the false prophets shall be found among these.

And as they who opposed Christ at his first coming in the flesh, seem more wise, and holy, and eminent in the Church than the rest, as the Scribes and Pharisees, who sat in Moses' chair, and had the outward letter of the Word in all exactness, and the outward form of religion in all strictness; so they, who do, and shall most oppose Christ in His coming in His Spirit, and shall contradict His Word, and resist His servants and witnesses of His Truth, do, and shall appear more wise, holy, learned, and godly, than the rest of the teachers in the Church.

And thus you see, that the false prophets of Anti-christ shall arise among Christians; and among such Christians as seem to be godly; and among such seeming godly Christians as preach the Word; and among such preachers of the Word as seem to be of greater worth and eminency than the rest: and so in all these regards it will be a hard matter to discern them.

4. Again, such persons, of such appearance and worth and holiness as these, do usually get to their side the greatest and highest persons in the kingdoms and nations, and do obtain, not only their countenance and favour, but also their power and authority for themselves.

5. By both these means (viz. their seeming holiness, and their interest with worldy powers) they exceedingly enlarge their credit and reputation with the world, and do get multitudes of people and nations to entertain them. For Anti-christ could not decieve the world with a company of foolish, weak, ignorant, prophane, contemptable persons, but he always hath the greatest, the wisest, holiest, and most eminent in the visible church for him, and by these he seduces and subjects to himself, even the whole world.
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Rev. 18:4


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Mason

Still more problems. The peculiar photos below (except the last one) were clipped from the same video that the above Jeremiah photos came from. The page images and quotes are from the book Codex Magica, by Texe Marrs. There is an entire chapter devoted in this book to each of the two Masonic hand/arm formations seen below, as well as chapters on the horned-hand and the all-seeing eye. Chapter 11 is about the 'X' formation, and chapter 4 is given to a comprehensive look at the sign of the 'hidden hand'. The book contains numerous photos and much more information on these subjects for anyone who is interested, and for that reason it is not necessary to post it here. There is a link to an online source for the book at the bottom of the page. These things here are offered as observations. Very curious observations, that is, which raise further questions. It should be noted that in viewing Jeremiah's program, these and other peculiar motions, or hand/arm formations, seem to be done with some frequency:
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The Mysterious 'X' Factor

"An X is an ancient symbol for change or transformation...long associated in medieval and renaissance art with the coming of the Messiah [Horus/Osiris] who shall make all things new.—Jim Tresner, 33° Scottish Rite Journal" (Codex Magica, pg. 205)



(quoted from above page image; pg. 208 Codex Magica): X Symbol in the Masonic Lodge

One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest. This sign refers to the penalty assessed if any secrets learned are ever divulged. Then, in the ritual ceremony for the Select Master Degree, the Second Sign is made by crossing the hands and arms just below the neck and dropping them downward quickly. Again, this is a reminder of the disclosure penalty, which is to have the body butchered and quartered.

Question: Is David Jeremiah making these two signs - which are here said to be associated with the "coming of the [all-seeing eye] Messiah"?

'These ancient Egyptian figures demonstrate how prevalent was Osiris' sacred sign, "X"'
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The hidden hand

"...taken directly from Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor (3rd Edition). It pictures the Royal Arch Mason performing the magical Sign of the Master of the Second Veil, which I informally and more informatively call here the Sign of the Hidden Hand of the Men of Jahbuhlun. According to Duncan's the candidate presents this sign when he is approached by three sojourners from Babylon. Their objective: Rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and eventually establish a world empire of the Jews. In his teaching course on Ancient Masonry, C.C. Zain of The Brotherhood of Light explains..."The sign is made," writes Zain, "by thrusting the hand into the bosom and again drawing it out." [Codex Magica; pg. 57-58]



[Quoted from above page image; pg. 58 Codex Magica]: "Sign of the Master of the Second Veil, or informally, sign of the hidden hand of the Men of Jahbuhlun (Richards monitor of Freemasonry, pg. 74); and, "Guards of the Conclave during the ritual for the Knights of the Christian Mark Degree. (Richardson's Monitor of Freemasonry. p. 123)"


[Quoted from above page image]: "In this ad for Hitachi Electronics, Napoleon is using the left-handed path (dark occultism) of magic. Napoleon was also reputed to be an llluminatus and an initiate into the Greater Mysteries (Areopagite degree). Note also the sun sign (Maltese) badge." [Codex Magica, pg. 73]

Question(s): Again, from underneath the 'cover' of the Luciferian all seeing eye, is David Jeremiah making the Masonic sign of the hidden hand? And secondly, is David Jeremiah making the sign of the hidden hand using the '"left-handed path" as seen in the photo directly above?

Judge for yourself.
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The book can be found online here: Codex Magica by Texe Marrs
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1TIMOTHY 4:1 'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils'

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one last thing...

Man of Jahbuhlun?

This unnatural arm-hand position, with the right hand strangely 'hidden', is repeated regularly (compare this photo with the 'horned hand' photo above). Is this a modified hidden-hand, so as to presumably avoid detection? Also very interesting to note is when it is done, i.e. what is being said at that moment. Watch and see.

According to "Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor (3rd edition)" as quoted from the 'Codex Magica' page image above, the hidden hand is used to signify the intent to "rebuild the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and eventually establish a world empire of the Jews".

That, by definition, is "Zionism".

Again, you be the judge, you be the jury.

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1John 1:5 'This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all'

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have been watching this pastor every sunday, and i really liked the show, but my mouth dropped open when i saw in the back ground of the horis eye in the church, i asked myself Im i seeing what i think Im seeing ? and if so WHY ? oh all i can say is pray about everything you might feel is right or wrong, i was totally caught off guard for sure. oh how satan is such a deciver... Iam so glad someone else caught this besides me.

tom m. said...

Anon,

Thanks for the comment, it is always encouraging to hear a good report.

This is something that has been really bothering me for quite a while.

It needs to be exposed...also an understanding that if this is what is showing on the 'outside'...what exactly is lurking on the 'inside'?

Cannot be good...

Revelation 3:11 'Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.'

Anonymous said...

I'd be interested in his comments to all this. (Like, explain the eye window ....for starts.)

Anonymous said...

I sent an eMail to Pastor Jeremiah asking why he had the "Eye of Horus," a well-known occult symbol, so prominently displayed in his church. I had a reply from his assistant within hours:

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is a stained glass art piece above the baptistry. It includes a large gold circle, with a red circle inside that with a cross and small red circle at the center of the cross. Just below the cross is an open Bible and the words just below that are: “The Entrance of thy words giveth light.” Psalm 119:130."

So it seems they're passing it off as "circles," rather than an eye.

Anonymous said...

It's also interesting to note that the window depicting Washington kneeling under the pyramid is directly over the alter in the congressional prayer room.

tom m. said...

Anon,

Thanks. Those who come to the altar then, are actually bowing directly before the eye. That is very telling.

The Capitol Building link on the prayer room window is here

It's worth checking out. There are other hidden things in that window.
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and Anon,

Good work on getting the official explanation from Shadow Mountain.

(quoting from it:)

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is..."

So then, according to them, it is 'sheer coincidence' that the "image" behind the pulpit just so happens to look EXACTLY like the image of the "Utchat Eye"

Good one Horus...
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'Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

And ye shall serve the LORD your God...'

Exodus 23:24-25a

Anonymous said...

I approached Shadow Mountain about the "eye" in the stained glass and received a response similar to one posted in an earlier comment. They also sent me a picture of the window that allowed me to zoom in. On closer look it is clearly a cross with a circle around the top, doesn't look like an eye at all(I wish I knew a way to share the photo). If you request a photo from Shadow Mountain I'm sure they'll be glad to send you a copy. The picture in the blog was from a distance and angle, and I can see where it may look like an eye, but to post such negative commments without doing the required due diligence of studying the picture is disgraceful.

tom m. said...

anon,

The 'eye' is painfully obvious, nothing at all to do with the angle of the photo. The fact that it is an abstract and disguised as a mosaic is no surprise at all, rather it is to be expected, even the fact that upon a 'close up', the 'hidden symbol' may not be so evident.

This is clearly explained in the these two quotes taken from the article itself:

[quote] “Symbolism is the language of the Mysteries ... By symbols men have ever sought to communicate to each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations of language. Rejecting man-conceived dialects as inadequate and unworthy to perpetuate divine ideas, the Mysteries thus chose symbolism as a far more ingenious and ideal method of preserving their transcendental knowledge. In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

[quote]:"All occult symbolism is in fact dualistic in meaning or interpretation, in that, it has an exoteric or outward meaning (known to the masses) and an esoteric or hidden meaning (known only to the elect few). Occultist Fredrick Goodman in his book 'Magical Symbols' (p. 6) explains: "The true magic symbol is an image which hides an inner meaning.": [secretsofmasons.com]

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Rest assured that the proper due diligence was given to the subject.

Rev. 18:4

Anonymous said...

I do not accept the due diligence was done, as that would have got in the way of a good conspiracy. In my opinion you have completely misrepresented the art on the stained glass and it appears to be solely to add ammunition to what appears to be a smear campaign of Dr Jeremiah. To support my claim, I will be pleased to send you the photo provided to me, or please request same from info@shadowmountain.org. They are very responsive. After viewing I would challenge you to post the pic on this Blog as I believe it completely invalidates your inflated claims and in no way is refelctive of the "all seeing eye of Egypt". I do not know Dr Jeremiah personally, all I can judge him by is his preaching. I listen to him each morning and while I may have the odd doctrinal difference with some comments, his teaching is clearly Christ focused and Bible based. May I suggest that you listen to him on radio, then you can hear the message clearly without the distractions of the window or whatever else may be an obstacle for you. If you have issues with his message, I would be glad to hear it but please do not create a straw man and then look for other deficiencies to hang on it.

Anonymous said...

If you take off your tinfoil hat, let's get to some facts.

First off, your assertion that Freemasonry is Luciferian is pure hogwash. Please do some research on the "Taxil Hoax" and you will find that almost all references to Lucifer have been long ago revealed as a hoax.

Second, Dr. Jeremiah is a Godly Christian man who preaches solid Bible-based messages. To infer that he is being deceived by Satan or that Satan is using him to deceive is so amazingly short-sighted.

Finally, that a symbol is the "All-seeing eye of God" not the eye of Horace. It is typically taken to be a universal symbol of the omniscience of God. For a Christian to deny the omniscience of God is again ludicrous. Just because he doesn't have a cross or a picture of Jesus certainly doesn't make him or his church any less Christian.

OK, you can put your tin foil hats back on now.

tom m. said...

John 10:4-5

"...and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers"


go here

Anonymous said...

"Those that are deceived deserve to be deceived".

NLunn said...

Dear Tin Foil Hat, You make me laugh; your comments are well intentioned.
I suggest you begin to do some serious homework. You are not yet in the running.... None of us knows what we don't know.

NLunn

tom m. said...

re: "none of us knows what we don't know"?

Speak for yourself - which you have actually done.

I would refer you back to the eighth comment; you will have to count them down; from which this quote from master occultist Manly P. Hall:

In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

NLunn so blind as those who refuse to see the 'obvious'.

Anonymous said...

I NOTICED THE ALL SEEING EYE WHILE WATCHING DR. DAVID'S PROGRAM ONE DAY. I THOUGHT ,WHAT IS THAT? THATS THE SATANIC ALL SEEING EYE OF FREEMASONRY........ I VISITED THEIR WEBSITE TO SEE IF AN IMAGE WAS THERE OF THE EYE, AND IT WAS.....HMMM. I NOW FOR A FACT THAT FREEMASONRY IS LUCIFERIAN.....AFTER I WAS BORN-AGAIN AS A YOUNG MAN OF 19 , I RECEIVED WITNESS OF THE HOLY GHOST THAT FREEMASONRY WAS SATANIC...PEACE AND GODS BLESSING TO ALL......JESUS IS COMING SOON

T.C. said...

I do go to his church and have for over 20 years.and I can tell you. This is all hogwash. When he ventures away from his pulpit. he often folds his hands. He had double knee surgery last year so he didnt move too much. I have never noticed the evil eye. All services are streamed and can be watched. and most services are kept online for roughly 6 months. I often feel he could go a lot deeper in his teaching. but that's another topic. Here is the church link. watch and decide things for yourself. God Bless All. He is the real deal. I have talked to him a many times. I know his children. I was once in his home.
http://shadowmountain.org/OnDemand.aspx

tom m. said...

T.C.

re: "I do go to his church and have for over 20 years...I have never noticed the evil eye"

That admission would have to call into question your discernment.

(note the comment right above yours for comparison)

re: "When he ventures away from his pulpit. he often folds his hands"

The hand/arm formations/gestures pictured are done not away from the pulpit but from the pulpit.

Calling this hogwash does not change the facts.

T.C. said...

"The Entrance of thy words giveth light" is what it says. I am a first person source to the man. that is a fact. People often find what they are looking for.
"The hand/arm formations/gestures pictured are done not away from the pulpit but from the pulpit."
I meant.
He doesnt stand behind his pulpit for the whole sermon he walks 10 - 15 feet away from the pulpit during it and this is often when he folds his arms making a point usually.
The picture obviously showed him on the platform with the old blue background. The current background is now Brown and has been for over a year. If anything I thought of the window as a christian fish symbol if anything. But why don't you accept a christian's answer for what it is. And to say that someone who kneels at the alter after God has spoke to their heart and is actually worshipping in front of an idol is shamefull.
I suggest if your staring at a stained glass window instead of listening to what is said might be a problem. If you Listen to Dr. Jeremiah I assure you you are not being deceived by Satan. Remember he is the "accuser of the brethren" which seems to be going on here. Huh?

tom m. said...

A christian fish? Huh?

At any rate you are quite free to disregard all this as hogwash if you do not see any problem.

Rev. 18:4

T.C. said...

You know like the christian fish symbol (sticker) people put on their cars?
I do know how you see what you see. it is very understandible. I was just relaying my experience because I actually go to his chruch.

tom m. said...

Readers,

fyi: This is not a stand alone issue. Jeremiah also promotes pseudo-christian new agers and their teachings; for example...here is a link to a recent [3-28-11] 'Lighthousetrailsresearch' article on Jeremiah:

David Jeremiah’s Book Life Wide Open – Still Sold on His Website – Still Includes New Agers

quote: "Lighthouse Trails receives emails from time to time from readers asking if there is still “a problem” with David Jeremiah and his 2003 (redone in 2005) book, Life Wide Open...

“This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…” (p. xii) Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd (When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God)."

[also message 'bible' creator Eugene Peterson...and others]

Ephesians 5:11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them"

Anonymous said...

Wow!!!! You really can't refute some of the hand gestures and poses this man is making!!! What is the likelihood that this many coincidences can be displayed by this man and eyebrows not be raised? If the " mosaic" in the back is causing such a dispersion on your ministry why not change it????? If I was preaching end time prophecy I definitely wouldn't want to have this emblem behind me!!!

The Paradise Reporter said...

Ha! I stumbled upon your page while looking for something else tonight & noticed in the links the David Jeremiah/Eye of Horus article, lol. I chuckle because I thought the same exact thing when I first saw it on TV a few years ago. I sent an email about it back in October 2008 to my yahoogroup subscribers. (That post is still online but the photos were not saved online at YGs). See that post here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/5792

Your other photos of DJ crossing his arms on his chest & slipping his fingers under his lapel are a hoot! Verrry interesting! Since I am not a man & don't wear suits, do men often have the urge to slip their fingers/hand under their lapels? Unless he had an itch in that spot, I can't imagine doing that naturally without thinking about it first. :)

Ditto the criss-crossing his hands across his chest... unless he was describing cuddling an infant or some other beloved subject he holds close to his heart. But even then... Hmm.

All together, beginning with the big eye, it's hard to trust these people, like TBN's Praise The Lord program whose introduction for Years (until very very recently) opened with the giant 666 "hidden in plain sight" disguised as beams or ribbons of light that swirl around to form the 666.

On the other hand, because there is so much of this occult symbolism everywhere now, & after contemplating it for years, I couldn't help wondering if the Masons, Illuminati, Luciferians, Kabbalists, etc. had not long ago infiltrated all the arts & graphic design schools & logo companies (you notice they now call it BRANDING) & brainwashing students & employees to the usage of such symbolism & urging them to include same in their designs.

A few years after considering that that also might be what is happening, I read a comment somewhere where a person stated that very thing.

Bottom Line, it could be either or both. Probably Both!

Another example: Several years back the banks & credit card companies began using photos of a single human eye in their advertising. Before long, EVERYBODY (from celebs, rock stars, musicians, AND even Christian ministries & Christian kids cartoons) began using a single human eye on EVERYTHING, fliers, book covers, videos, advertisements, etc. All of which irks me all over the place! because (a) It cannot be coincidence; & (b) I know from which it comes! Back to the All-Seeing EYEBALL.

It irks me because, hello, God has TWO eyes & so do we because we were "made in His image." The one-eye supposedly being the Eye of Providence/God is baloney, fed to the masses by the Deceiver himself.

OK, that's my Christian rant for the day. :) Keep up the good service & insights.

Anonymous said...

I recently bought a TV and came upon the man I had occassionally listened to on radio. And I was stunned when I saw the All-seeing on mingled with the pyramid. I immediately sent an e-mail to them, thinking I must be the first person to notice this and must inform them. They described an open Bible, a cross, etc. Hog-wash. It's confusing then about what these people are up to when they seem to be teaching us things of God. WHAT ARE THEY UP TOO!!!???

Anonymous said...

"No one knows what they do not know". Good comment. Correct. Those who are defending the all-seeing eye behind the pulpit in this building do not understand what they are looking at. They have not "done their homework", as was stated earlier. "None so blind as those who will not see".

Anonymous said...

Good job exposing this wolf. Hopefully more like him get exposed and the remnant will open their eyes and stop following people like him. If he really is involved in the mysteries and claims to be a minister of the Lord Jesus may he repent before he faces judgement! I'm sick and tired of seeing all the brainwashed believers follow these preachers.

Some people commented that it was just a mosaic of circles and a cross. If that's so then he should still remove it because what you see on TV, and I'm sure what you see if your in that church on SUNday is a perverted form of the eye of horus.

Anonymous said...

It's odd to me that a "Christian" church would have such a sketchy image in there place of worship. How could anyone think that it doesn't look like an all seeing eye? Are you blind? If I walked into a church and there was a huge stained glass pyramid behind the paster every Sunday I would not attend no matter how sound the doctrine. Any church that would let that fly has deeper intentions in my opinion.

P.S. The pulpit has leaf branches with 7 sets of leaves. A very holy number to the Freemasons. Could be a coincidence but with a huge all seeing eye in the background I'm guessing it's on purpose.

Anonymous said...

I am just blown away at the people on this post. Can you really be serious? Listen to David Jeremiah's sermons. He clearly and plainly declares the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to heaven. He preaches the blood of Jesus. He preaches hell hot and heaven sure to all who repent of their sins and place faith in Christ. That is not what Satan wants his ministers preaching!!! It is so sad that other "Christians" attack a man who is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE my friend and ask if Satan would approve. He would not. Worrying about a stained glass window and accusing David Jeremiah of being something other than a God called man to exalt Jesus and God's Word is the work of the devil. It is Satan who is the "accuser of the brethren" so everyone of you who are attacking him and not taking into account the message that he preaches are simply "accusers" and that's the real work of the devil. shame, shame, shame on you, and you will answer to the Lord Jesus Christ for every idle word you speak.

tom m. said...

No idle words here but legitimate questions.

re: "listen to the message"

Not to belabor the point, but aside from the symbolism and gestures, many more questions are in fact raised by Jeremiah's "message", which could very well be described as 'mixed' - e.g. his documented promotion of 'christian new agers' (as mentioned in a comment above [8 up from this one]).

1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Anonymous said...

Today I went to shadow Mountain Church. and I don t know really why, but I did want to celebrate my day with YHWH, and decided to go where my neighbor normally worship. It was around 2/3 into the sermon, i closed my eyes and was telling YHWH how great he is in my life, and thanking the Lord Yahshuah when i open my eyes slowly and almost felt to the ground. I first tough i was "tripping" that my imagination had gone to far, bu I notice that the cross inside the circle it is even side inside it, but it top length stretch outside up, making an upside cross. I couldn't believe, so a squeezed my eyes and got really dumb folded when I saw the eye. Not just an eye, but the eye, with inclusive the detail that stretch down on the left side. I just couldn't believe, it couldn't be, but it is. I couldn't take of my mind, so as I was surfing the net, I decided to type shadow mountain on google picture, and came across this site. THANK YOU so much to make me feel normal again, I was really thinking i was nuts. I'm not a religious person, but I know the Lord. I am a sinner confessed, but I am not crazy. That is the eye of Horus. I don't believe that the people that go to that church knows that, but "THEY" will hide their message in plain sight. I am heart broken,with such deception and wish I was wrong, but in my heart I know I am not. It is a sad day to me, for I have to look into my neighbor eyes and see that he is being led blind wrongly.

tom m. said...

Hi anon...it's very apparent from your comment that your dismay is definitely heartfelt...and good for that...

For the record though I must make an objection here in reference to the usage of the incorrect judaized nomenclature, so increasingly common these days, for the LORD God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

To do so detracts from the Person and work of Christ Jesus, and especially from the name given him by God himself:

"And...the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth...And the angel said unto her...Mary...behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luke 1:26-33 (cf. Matt. 1:18-21; an angel also visits Joseph with the same message)
***
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil. 2:9-11

laursdav said...

I turned the "Church Channel" today because I have been reading a lot lately about "evangelical" pastors that are in the public eye (no pun intended) that are actually Free Masons. So curiosity got the best of me today and I decided just to check out a Christian t.v. station to see if I could find any Free Mason, Illuminati, Occult symbolism in the background, or something that the people on the station were talking about or doing with their hands that looked sketchy. I honestly thought I was acting a little overboard and didn't expect to find ANYTHING. I felt a little silly, but just for kicks thought I would try. And can you believe that when I turned to that station the FIRST program I saw was David Jeremiah (who I thought was a doctrinally sound theologian), and an All Seeing Eye right behind him!!! Like Anonymous, I couldn't believe it when I first saw it and my mouth literally dropped open wide!! David Jeremiah?! I'm dumbfounded! I just saw this an hour ago and came online to see if anyone else has been talking about this. It's so true, I am questioning EVERY pastor now. Even if it sounds true, we need to scrutinize what they are saying and how they are acting. Satan is like a wolf in sheep clothing. Thanks for posting this!!!! I am glad to see that there are other people, followers of Jesus, that are waking up to this world-wide deception that is going on!! God bless you all!

Man from Modesto said...

It is absolutely true that the masons and other satanists, elites, and "Insiders" mark their works with secret symbols to gain support.

Another tactic is to rewrite history so that all the greats are made out to have been with them. Washington, I believe, was NOT a mason. The main "evidence" is a painting of Washington wearing a mason bib. It was painted more than a hundred years after his death.

Another symbol they use are the "square and compass", which represent a woman's and a man's legs, to form "the union of the opposites".

Yet another is 32 or 322. I have a compilation of how this particular symbol is used: http://hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Conditioning-in-Movies-MInd-Control

tom m. said...

to Modesto,

re: "Washington, I believe, was NOT a mason"

You must not then have ever heard of the George Washington Masonic Memorial located in Alexandria, Virginia, outside Washington, D.C.

from home page: "The George Washington Masonic Memorial is more than a colossal memorial and museum. It is a tourist attraction and destination; research center and library; community center; performing arts center and concert hall; banquet and celebration site; and meeting site for local and countless visiting Masonic lodges and organizations. However, first and foremost, it is a memorial to honor and perpetuate the memory, character and virtues of the man who best exemplifies what Freemasons are and ought to be, Brother George Washington."

from 'History' page: "Washington was initiated an Entered Apprentice on November 4, 1752, passed to Fellowcraft on March 3, 1753, and raised to Master Mason on August 4, 1753"

That Washington was in fact a "master mason" is beyond question...there is a museum to attest to it.

Man from Modesto said...

Like I said, all evidence indicating Washington is fabricated by Masons AFTER Washington died.

They also are trying to reinvent the father of modern physics and math, Isaac Newton, as a Mason. He was not. Einstein, too, they want everyone to believe was on their team.

Masons (Rockefeller) stole the work of Tesla and pieced it out to Masons to take credit.

They do this for recruiting. They want to recruit the best and brightest, and so claim that history's best and brightest all belong to them. Lies!

Anonymous said...

Most of you will not appreciate this comment, but here it is. Jeremiah just gave a very visceral and emotive message on God's grace and the abolition of the Old Testament law. As a Sabbath Keeper (NOT SDA, which still celebrates the ancient pagan religion of Ishtar [Easter]), it makes perfect sense if he is in collusion with the Masons and a worldwide agenda. It all ties together if he is a Mason. He is encouraging everyone to follow all of the Ten Commandments except one (#4).

My dear Protestants and servants of Christ: if Sunday is the Lord's day, why would the purely Luciferian NWO enact a law REQUIRING everyone to worship on it? This law will take place eventually. Just something to think about. I have relatives that cannot be convinced as of yet, so I am not trying to convince you to automatically obey ALL of the Ten Commandments. Just think about it. Hope I wasn't too trollish, God bless.

tom m. said...

truly regenerate believer...

"Ye are not under law, but under grace." (Romans 6:14)

Nothing can be added.

Anonymous said...

I was a little shocked when I read this--but then again every day we hear of more things about pastors all over the US. The one thing I do not like about David Jeremiah is that he uses the Message bible. Anyone that uses the message bible(which I can't even stand to call it a bible) I lose a respect for their teaching.

Anonymous said...

While watching D.J. this morning I noticed a SHADOW being cast onto the wall out where the customers sit, I looked closer to possibly see it's source/reason THEN to my surprise I saw what this blog points out. This is NOT surprising because about a year or so ago he had a REEDUCATION series called "What WE have IN COMMON with Muslims" D.J. uses the SAME process of transformation/transition as the Marxists
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
It is the MERGING of OPPOSITES, in this mornings REEDUCATION "sermon" nearly ALL of his speech was quotes by Atheist etc. he gives his about LAST 3 minutes to reading a FEW "bible verses" with NO TRANSLATION NOTED. This is simply bait and switch, have you noticed that D.J. caries himself as a Psychotherapist in his mannerisms and quite noticeable, at least to me, is his eyes look dead, NO LIGHT, just like some clips I've seen of Jim Jones BEFORE he began wearing his signature dark sunglasses.

tom m. said...

re: 'no light'

Definitely no light, as you point out, in fact it is truly "another sprit" that is empowering what goes on there, like the scripture verses below describe. Watching it gives a sickening feeling.

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 'But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him'


To whom it may concern...

Bear no more.

sAint said...

i came online looking for a pic post about his ring, did you know freemasons wear there special rings on the right hand ring finger? and alot of the time its a square black ring alot like his... after finding this i realised i wasnt crazy for thinking ive been staring at an eye everytime i watch his show each week,i also have noticed the "horns" come from his hands a few times and had made odd mental notes of them but didnt put this all together tll reading this blog, it all makes sence now,EVERYTHING in the media is controlled and operated now by the elite satanist's or "illuminated" ones haha ... may the True God of Jacob bless you!

Anonymous said...

I came upon this website whilst trying to find out why they have the eye of Horus in their church. I used to be involved in the occult before I became a Christian, and quite frankly, it shocked me when I noticed it. This can't be good ...

David Grosse said...

I had never seen DJ on TV as we have never wanted one in our house. Our church did use his video for a SS class and that is where I imediatelly noticed the eye. It's time to wake up. There is no forgiveness of sin without total repentance from sin. To dabble or flurt with sin is to deny the LORD.

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
(Titus 1:16)

Anonymous said...

I haven't been listening to him recently but as of a few years ago his messages seemed to ring very true to me. "By their fruits ye shall know them". I think its more important to focus on the message, rather than the messenger.

Of course he should remove the image. Its not as if they don't have the money. If something divides believer unnecessarily, it should be removed as soon as possible. Just the hint of a satanic symbol is cause for concern. Perhaps he has an emotional attachment to it and pride is stopping him from authorizing its removal. Perhaps he wasn't involved in the choice of the image and doesn't realize its significance. Perhaps he doesn't realize the reaction of so many people to it as he probably doesn't read all the email pouring into the place.

Yes its wrong.
Yes it should be replaced.
But it doesn't mean he is behind it. Listen to the message more than the messenger. Satan does like to tear down Christian leaders and disqualify all the good works they do. No Christian leader is perfect. Jeremiah is demonstrating that by not replacing this image that smacks of freemasonry and anybody that can read and has read about freemasonry knows it is evil to the very core.

tom m. said...

Anon,

Actually there are numerous problems with Jeremiah's 'message'.

On that note, Jeremiah's frequent use of the perverted 'message' so-called bible reveals much. The 'message bible' is without question "another gospel" - and it comes with "another spirit" [2Cor. 11:3-4]

Also, borrowing from a comment above - Jeremiah often promotes pseudo-christian new agers and their teachings: "David Jeremiah’s Book Life Wide Open – Still Sold on His Website – Still Includes New Agers

“This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…” (p. xii) Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd (When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God)." lighthousetrails 3-28-11

Additionally, unbiblical source material similar to the above mentioned is regularly added into sermons.

Truth with subtle error woven in is no longer truth.

Lastly, the man is the message.

Try the spirits 1John 4:1

Anonymous said...

Since names are always significant, I researched the name of the church (Shadow Mountain Community Church) and discovered that the shadow of a mountain is always in the shape of a triangle (pyramid), regardless of the shape of the mountain. In light of the fact that the church has this great all-seeing eye prominently displayed in their church, this does seem a rather odd choice of name ...

Anonymous said...

I attended this church for Easter services this past Sunday. I was aware of this site and this posting, previously and so when in San Diego, definitely wanted to check it out the all-seeing eye, which is so clearly visible when viewed on tv, for myself. What struck me, in=person, is that the image of the all-seeing eye is NOT evident in-person, when you're up-close or in the sanctuary. Instead, the viewer, does indeed see the separate parts of the cross and Bible explained by the email response by the church. YET, the eye is blatantly visible ONLY when televised to the 'masses' & can clearly be seen in his televised sermons. I am sad, b/c I like DJ's teachings and books; yet cannot dismiss the evidence on tv. It reminds me of those drawing that you stare at and after a while, you relax your eyes and can see hidden images. In this case, however, the hidden image is in your face on tv

tom m. said...

Interesting 'eye' witness report.

re: "hidden" images

see comment #8 counting down from top

Anonymous said...

I'm in agreement with a previous poster, there is definitely an upside-down cross within the all-seeing-eye.

The cross is a golden color, and is surrounded by a redish circle. The vertical beam extends ABOVE the circle, but NOT below it, making it an inverted cross.

If you follow the color of the cross, you can plainly see it. This is irrefutable proof that the window is sinister. A lot of effort went into that design and it wasn't accidental.

Anonymous said...

Hidden in plain sight!! OMG. i have bee listening to his preaching every night for the past couple of weeks.. though i loved the sermons i had this uneasy feel the i dismissed it as me trying to be wise.. but in hindsight i now believe it as the Holy spirit in me discerning the spirit. I only became aware of it whe i saw the eye of horus!! n from listening to his preaching n his teachings i thought surely this man has studied enough in theology to be aware that this symbol is a sign of the occult.. if so he allows it up there in his church knowingly. oh mann let us remain awake lest we be deceived, may we be grounded in Gods word lest we be moved, let us be i constant fellowship with the Holy spirit that we know when it is not Him speaking. The bible already warns us of this. may we not be included in that verse that states that in the end times eve some of the elect will be deceived. JESUS REIGNS!

THANKYOU FOR POSTING.!!!

Anonymous said...

I think it's important to remember also Satan is a deceiver and he can turn anything into an occult sign.

David Jeremiah is exactly the kind of man he will target to deceive all of you. You can be deceived by satan to believe it's the eye of horus and stop listening to a Godly man, and God's word being preached each week.

You take hand gestures out of context and say they are from the occult as well.. Satan wants you to. Satan has set out to do exactly what he wanted with this entire page.

I'm praying for all of you that choose to believe any of these satanic conspiracy theories.

tom m. said...

to Anonymous (directly above)

you might want to take a look at this: Apostasy Gone Wild: Catholics, Jews, 'Christians', And
'Mormon' Glenn Beck - "Under God Indivisble" 7-27-12


Along with many other big names, Jeremiah was one of the main speakers at this very recent "unifaith" conference. Holding hands with deniers of the Lord Jesus Christ 2John 7-11. No way to spin it.

Rev. 18:4

harnessandleash said...

Since this blog is based on the meaning of a stained glass window in David Jerimiah's sanctuary at Shadow Mountain Church why not ask the question directly to the source? The following is a emaial response I received inquiring about the meaning of the window.

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is a stained glass art piece above the baptistry. It includes a large gold circle, with a red circle inside that with a cross and small red circle at the center of the cross. Just below the cross is an open Bible and the words just below that are: “The Entrance of thy words giveth light.” Psalm 119:130. We are attaching a picture of the stain glass to enable you to zoom in on a large shot of the piece.

The stained glass designer was brought in by the contractor building the sanctuary back around 1991. We are not aware of any specific significance. It seems to us that the message is to exhort us to stay in the Word of God, as that is the way to get the light of His presence and knowledge, and it’s especially highlighted by the backlighting behind the glass.

In His Service,

Barbara Boucher

Administrative Assistant to

Pastor David Jeremiah

619-590-1727

barbara.boucher@shadowmountain.org"

There are plenty of "legitimate" false teachers out there for scrutinizing but David Jerimiah is NOT one of them. Let's call an ace an ace and a baptismal window a baptismal window ... and move on. We will all be asked, someday, to give an account for the harm we knowingly inflicted to "the cause of Christ." Yes, "test the spitits" by all means, but, be careful of which "spirit" you are of yourself. I'll be surprised if this post makes it on to your blog but if it does, praise God.




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Anonymous said...

Dear Barbara,
Look, honestly, there is a lot of controversy over a piece of art by some stained glass designer that worked for a building contractor. Nearly all of us see the occultic eye and are shocked but your defend it. Why not ditch the thorn in your side? Yes, get rid of the glass art and hang up an old wooden cross like most churches have, or nothing at all? If the eye stays up, we continue to see the eye and questions remain. Also, what you described is weird, the themes in the art that is. The 3 circle deal and the really tiny cross is weird. Carl

harnessandleash said...

"And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people's faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them." Romans 16:17

So now the discussion turns to how big a cross should be in a church? And since when is art that depicts an open bible with a verse, that points out how God's word should be the light of our hearts, not appropriate? A little more time in God's word reading about "divisions among believers" would be well spent and less time trying to tarnish a Godly man's reputation (i.e. David Jeremiah). What's next, the color of carpet? Or how about the sermon that is preached from page 666 in the bible? There are so many "real" issues going on in the world today that need legitamate attention brought to them. Who needs the venum of unbelievers when there are believers doing their work for them? This blog is starting to smell suspiously like a dead fish. Oh wait, you know, if you look close enough, it may not be a fish after all -- I'm pretty sure I see a snake that evolved into a fish and has flopped it's way into the crowd of those who cause divisions in the church.

Signing off of this one ----

Anonymous said...

Well, I had a good look at a closeup of the window and saw this: Centerpoint of Eye is the red centerpoint of cross. The Red & Yellow Circles - the iris and pupil of the eye. Lightest part is in the center - An Illuminated Eye. The Red Circle around the 'cross' - The Ouroboros. Within the Fiery Red Circle the cross is equidistant from the center like the pagan Solar Cross, or Sun Wheel. The cross continues more obviously upward from there beyond the red circle making the image of an Inverted Cross.

From there, the cross extends beneath the Open Book 'Bible' and as a whole resembles a sword. An open (holy) book symbolizes deity in Masonry. The Sword symbolizes LIGHT fire, duality, and power. This would explain the use of the verse from Psalm 119:130a - "The entrance of thy words giveth light." In masonry and the occult, however, the light-giver is unfortunately Lucifer, not God.

Beyond the light colored center circle, the eye begins to take on the classic shape of an eye as a whole with an almond, or Mandorla, shape (the outline of the eye). The Mandorla has been used in both Christian and pagan iconography throughout history. The All-Seeing Eye is a symbol showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light and usually enclosed by a triangle.

In this stained-glass window, it is easy to see rays of light emanating from the top of the artwork and descending downward in a triangular fashion. The overall effect is that of an illuminated eye within a pyramid. This is the exact description of the All-Seeing Eye of Horus in Egyptian mythology. The Pyramid is an occult symbol of ultimate power. I would definitely question why such artwork is in a supposed Christian church.

tom m. said...

Seems that a closeup view of the Shadow Mountain stained glass window is in order here - so one has been posted. Also, the anonymous commenter directly above has provided some very interesting observations with regard to the window, and so the comment is posted too. Examine it for yourself if interested:

Shadow Mountain stained glass window closeup

Anonymous said...

I would like to say thag EVEN if it is a cross with a circle around it that it is not a christian cross because a cross with a circle around it is in reference to pagan cross symbols such as Horus, Osiris, Isis, Baal, etc. The circle around the cross signifies Sun worship, which is the same religion as the eye of Horus or Baal worship. All paintings with Jesus during the dark ages that had what we call a halo was not what we thought was a halo. It was the radiance of the sun around His head signifying sun worship and paralleling Christ to Horus and Tammuz, etc. We were taught it was a halo, but that was apart of the deception. Besides who made up the term "halo"? Its not Scriptural! You judge.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Masonry is christian? I hope not because it mkst certainly isn't. That being said if it is not christian then it is of this world and it is born if the devil if it is not born of God (Jesus). A demon is behind every idol, and every word I just spoke is the oracles of God. Now calm down and allow yourself to be taught the truth in love.

Anonymous said...

It's a shame people dont realize and refuse to educate themselves on the power of the subconscious. The all seeing eye is just that, spiritual warfare and it saddens me to see this at the DJ church. Bot because I thought he was a man of God and have been duped, but because I listened to his radio broadcast for years and do not know how much damage he may have been doing to those not yet with the spiritual protection. Im sorry, but it seems obvious that any church that has this amount of criticism on the stain glass image and does not remove it, or change it is not a church of God.

Anonymous said...

I have worked for Dr. Jeremiah and Turning Point for over 14-years, and I can tell you he is TRULY a man of God, and a dear, personal friend.

Other than that, no other response from me seems worth spending the time.

Blessings to all of you. I pray God will show you the truth.

Anonymous said...

i was flipping the channels and decided to put on tbn when i stumbled on this mass choir singing under the " all seeing" eye not knowing who or what i was watching. however i know for sure that is the " all seeing eye". im a christian and im not just a talker but a walker!! as christians its important for us to study and and be watchman....im blessed to be married to a pastor who teaches me daily. through our research and constant prayer we trust in our gift of discernment. its a shame so many of our misled brothers and sisters may not enter the Kingdom of God. we have to pray now more than ever. JESUS is coming real soon. freemasonary illuminati scientology mk ultra etc etc is real...but GOD is GREATER!! im changing channel better yet im going to pray that the scales be removed from the eyes of the deceived!!!

Anonymous said...

Nonsense. You know it's this kind of accusatory thinking that got Jesus harassed by the pharisee's. They accused Him of being a glutton for eating in the field on the Sabbath day. They accused Him of being demon ridden, of associating with "sinners" and even heresy. Jesus rebuked them all. There is no eye in that image, that is what YOUR evil eye sees. The light of the body is the eye but if the eye is evil, so is the whole body. Oh well now you're going to get upset because I said LIGHT? God IS Light, in Him there is no darkness. This is not sun worship, this is scripture. You see that eye because your eye is geared towards seeing evil. You study evil, all this mason and illuminati stuff as vigorously as you should be studying the bible. DONT. Study the bible but also practice it. Don't sit around looking for evil. "ewww Shadow Mountain is evil sounding..." you say? So now a shadow is evil? Shadow Mountain is the community in which that church is built. If you look, there are a lot of areas called Shadow Mountain here in San Diego. There are many beautiful grape vineyards planted in Shadow Mountain valleys. Isn't it written that whoever abides in the secret place of the most High will abide in His shadow? Or are you going to go ahead and call that scripture evil too? The bible says to test the spirit, not judge, and if you read the very next verse of your beloved 1John 4:1 you will see how to test the spirit. It does not say look at how he poses, or how he does his hands, or how an image when looking at it from afar looks like an evil idol. You are doing nothing for Christianity by going around accusing everyone like a devil of doing evil. Especially from someone you don't even know and is a pastor of God. All this meandering in evil and paranoia is only hurting YOU. It is slowly corrupting you more and more and I urge you to stop. I looked around at your other blogs and they are FILLED with all the same nonsense. It is NOT discernment you or any of the other accusers possess it is vanity. You claim to know and love God but you point your finger and accuse others made in the same image of God. Hypocrites. Remember, everything you write, say and do will be recorded and why not have a good record of good deeds instead of accusations and fear? I pray blessings of a soft heart and wisdom of love to shine on you all.

tom m. said...

re: "There is no eye in that image, that is what YOUR evil eye sees...or how an image when looking at it from afar looks like an evil idol"

To briefly respond, this link is reposted:

Shadow Mountain stained glass window closeup "In response to questions raised in the above post with regard to the Shadow Mountain stained glass window being an all-seeing-eye, there are some commenters who would refute what seems obvious to most. Basically all use the same defense which is to simply 'deny the eye'...

re: "NOT discernment you or any of the other accusers possess"

In response to that, see above comments dated 4-2-11 and 12-15-11 on Jeremiah's promotion of pseudo-christian new-agers, and usage of Message 'bible' (for just a few examples)

Additionally, here is another reposted link from a comment (7-30-12) - and you might want to take a look at the article:

Apostasy Gone Wild: Catholics, Jews, 'Christians', And 'Mormon' Glenn Beck - "Under God Indivisble" 7-27-12 "Along with many other big names, Jeremiah was one of the main speakers at this very recent "unifaith" conference. Holding hands with deniers of the Lord Jesus Christ 2John 7-11. No way to spin it."

1John 4 speaks of trying the spirits, for the very purpose of differentiating between the spirit of truth and the spirit of error [1 John 4:6]. It was out of love that John exhorted believers to do so. The things pointed out above, when 'tried', are found to belong to the 'spirit of error'. That is discernment, not accusing.

Rev. 18:4

Anonymous said...

My Mom told me I should check this great preacher out. When I clicked on the video I immediately saw the eye and thought this is great, the guy is talking about the dangers of occult symbols. Then I realized it wasn't a power point but an actual window and part of the church. Told Ma to stay away from this dude.

Wayne said...

I want to know if that ring David always has on his right hand is a ring of protection? He went through cancer and other health issues so who really knows if he is involved with secret society's...
I have attended this church for a few years. The (alledged) eye of Horus has always been a concern but I got the same reason from SMCC given here. In addition there are some things that bother me, mainly all the ecumenists, contemplatives, Emergents that David supports along with the constant promoting of his and other pastors book sales at the Church. I don't think Pastors should be "best selling authors" in my humble opinion. He has several sites where he really promotes himself and his books/cd's
Where he has written his own Bible called "The Jeremiah study Bible" along with a book called "the focused life" using 2 books from the Bible. I don't think someone should be making money off the Holy Bible. Jesus or his disciples Never did anything like this. Maybe I'm just over reacting.
http://www.davidjeremiah.org/site/?tid=onplc

t.c. said...

P.S. The pulpit has leaf branches with 7 sets of leaves. A very holy number to the Freemasons. Could be a coincidence but with a huge all seeing eye in the background I'm guessing it's on purpose.

Wow the Freemasons consider 7 a Holy number???! Where would they get that from...? That Pulpit was carved by one of the Missionaries as a Gift to Dr. Jeremiah. Yes I've never heard about 7 being a holy number (Sarcasm)
I also forgot to point out that in the middle of that "eye" is an open bible and a cross...
Just stating a fact.

tom m. said...

A lot going on with that 'cross' - see second quoted comment (in article) on eye-close-up page here

Wayne said...

I agree guys and Anonymous is absolutely right they should take it down. Not like they can't afford it. So David must want it there for a reason. Last year before Obama was elected David was boasting about raising 3.7 million for a new building and advertising money to vote for Romney (indirectly of course because of the tax status)LOL which was a surprise to me because I think Romney is a free mason and David should not have been supporting either one of those two for President.

Another thing that has always bothered my wife and I is that the name of Jesus is no where to be found in that room or any other and shadow mountain is a big place. But David has a good size room promoting all his books and cd's along with his own Bible. Thank you friends for your comments. Our family no longer attends SMCC.

SayWhat? said...

It is clearly an Eye of Horus. That's what I thought when I first saw it. It is subterfuge. Whoever designed the window was definitely a mason, imo. To continue to display it is either ignorance or defiance. They should cover it up, because they are causing people to stumble by continuing to display it. The fact that they refuse to cover it leads me to believe they are promoting the occult subliminally.

Iggygirl PA said...

For those still not sure about Freemasonry good or evil should view "The Mother of All Secrets Mike Hoggard' on youtube. This is not conspiracy this is fact, the world is not ruled by language but by symbols and signs. Confucius knew this and said,"Signs and symbols rule the world, not rules or laws". Pray for wisdom which comes from the Almighty GOD. GOD word say to come out from them, we are sanctified (set apart). Watching for the true Christ Jesus not the first pretender.

Anonymous said...

I just saw the eye tonight for the first time while watching the programme. My first thought was, "Ehm, what is that thing that I am seeing." It went off the screen but I became alert n watched to see if I could see it again and when it appeared again, I looked and what I saw was an eye. The more I looked at it the clearer it became as an eye rather than anything else. I changed the channel immediately even though I like listening to David Jeremiah. I went online and typed up 'what is that eye in shadow mountain church' and that is when I stumbled across this site. Everyone knows the eye is occultic and therefore if they have nothing to do with the occult, they should take it down because it is causing an offence to genuine christians with discernment. 1Cor 10:32 says, "Do not cause anyone to stumble whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God ...

Anonymous said...

David Jeremiah fondly recalls his family giving him the Scofield's Commentary. I recall reading this as used by the 13 Satanic bloodlines. I sincerely hope Jeremiah is not part of this notorious group.

tom m. said...

The Scofield commentary has nothing to do with Jeremiah's 'eye of Horus' and 'emergent' and interfaith affiliations e.g. Glenn Beck conference