tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post2679888932875371830..comments2024-03-07T09:18:53.344-10:00Comments on Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): David Jeremiah And His All-Seeing Eye: What Is Up?tom m.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comBlogger154125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-15241383675306794382023-03-09T09:08:33.173-10:002023-03-09T09:08:33.173-10:00This response is to the comment made on Jan. 7,202...This response is to the comment made on Jan. 7,2023. I have no idea what hearts that have been cleansed by Christ's blood and been spiritually graced with power to obey, actually means. I have not read these words anywhere in my King James Bible. My sins were washed away by the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross. If you read John 3:3-8 (KJB) that's an exact description of what happened to me on Thursday October 9, 1980. John 3:8 (KJB) is exactly what transpired when I was filled with the Holy Ghost. I had never heard the phrase born-again before this happened on October 9,1980, but I knew what it meant after I was born-again. Lilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-36641883680118070532023-01-08T09:10:01.705-10:002023-01-08T09:10:01.705-10:00to anon (directly above),
not sure what the 10 co...to anon (directly above),<br /><br />not sure what the 10 commandments have to do with this post, but, the problem with that teaching is that it is not in the bible. Nowhere in the doctrines concerning the NT church will you find that - from after the cross to the beginning of the book of Acts to the end of the Revelation not one scripture can be found to teach that.<br /><br />On the contrary what is found is: <br /><br /><i>Galatians 5:1 'Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage'</i><br /><br />and how to do that, not by 'keeping the law - i.e. trying to 'keep the 10 commandments', but rather <br /><br /><i>Galatians 5:16 'This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh'</i>tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-25616666696595406942023-01-07T16:31:37.732-10:002023-01-07T16:31:37.732-10:00We are not under the law of sin and death, but we ...We are not under the law of sin and death, but we are still called to obey the 10 commandments from hearts that have been cleansed by Christ’s blood and been spiritually graced with power to obey🙌Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-88123716367017356892022-06-25T16:22:01.420-10:002022-06-25T16:22:01.420-10:00In response to Lila (directly above)
✓ (that...<br />In response to Lila (directly above)<br /><br />✓ (that's a comment 'like')tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-33863334114126441232022-06-24T14:56:22.568-10:002022-06-24T14:56:22.568-10:00I was having trouble understanding what Anon on Ju...I was having trouble understanding what Anon on June 19, 2022 is communicating in their comment above. For me, when I give the proper amount of time, to study of God's word and letting His Spirit be my teacher; I trust God to give me a sound mind. I can either accept the things He allows me to learn, or I can ignore them. The phrase in the above comment (lifelong servant of Christ) sounded foreign to me. And then I remember Luke 1:41 And it came to pass when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in the womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: That sounds like a lifelong servant to Christ to me; is that not awesome, (from the womb). That was none other than John the Baptist! But for the life of me I cannot think of anyone else that qualifies as a lifelong servant of Christ, but John the Baptist (from the womb and the rest of his life, to his death as a true witness of Christ.lilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-54134319545665477182022-06-20T10:31:32.956-10:002022-06-20T10:31:32.956-10:00In response to Anon (directly above)
To 'deny...<br />In response to Anon (directly above)<br /><br />To '<b>deny-the-eye</b>' is not a valid defense. The "supposed seeing eye..created..by some poor artist" - as you call it, actually has been done with very purposeful design that is 'undeniable'. This fact was the topic of this post: <br /><br /><a href="https://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2012/08/david-jeremiah-shadow-mountain-all.html" rel="nofollow">Jeremiah all-seeing-eye closeup</a>tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-2395990638217264202022-06-19T17:48:36.298-10:002022-06-19T17:48:36.298-10:00Ugh. Did you read that Bible you had in your hand ...Ugh. Did you read that Bible you had in your hand to match up with the words of this lifelong servant of Christ, as you sit there in your chair NOT being such? Because this ditz of a man, Tom and this supposed seeing eye that was created in a workshop by some poor artist that wasn't aware of such paranoia and this beloved preacher deserve better than this stupidity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-68525134690722280482022-06-14T06:54:58.423-10:002022-06-14T06:54:58.423-10:00This morning at 5 am, like I always do, turn on th...This morning at 5 am, like I always do, turn on the tv to watch morning worship, as I get ready for work. Of course as I was sitting down on the couch with coffee in one hand and my Bible in the other, I noticed the stain glass had an all seeing eye. <br /><br />I immediately thought I might have been imagining what I was seeing, because I haven’t ever really payed close attention to the stain glass before. I began to feel like something was off, so I started using my laptop and found this page. <br /><br />So I thank you for writing this article, and feel something is awakening the Christians to see the truth. I’m grateful for finding your post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-39809035398826359592021-08-30T07:11:59.019-10:002021-08-30T07:11:59.019-10:00Deuteronomy 16:22 'Neither shalt thou set thee...<br />Deuteronomy 16:22 'Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth'tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-91608904154236922702021-08-21T23:20:52.081-10:002021-08-21T23:20:52.081-10:00Your name may be on whatever you said here, but I ...Your name may be on whatever you said here, but I pray it won't be missing from the "Lamb's book of life". I honestly fear for your soul, whether right or wrong about all of your allegations. Does the fact that this man, despite your stained glass window paranoia, preaches the gospel? ...The truth of Christ's saving grace. Does that play any part at all in your thought process? Have you even listened to Dr. Jeremiah's messages at all, or does your fascination with that window preclude you from any deeper investigation? I think the reason you get a few "repeats" from those who've replied previously, is that we receive an email (unless we specifically opt out) each time there is a response, thereby keeping this post "alive" for (it looks like) almost 12 years. In that time, I have paid special attention to hand gestures, etc., and found anyone speaking publicly could have a moment "frozen", and come off appearing to make such gestures. I dare say the author of this accusatory thread from its inception could be shown to make one of these gestures if recorded for an hour or thousand. It's rubbish. It really is. There's nothing in the Word supporting what you've done here, but there's plenty about those Pharacees accusing Christ himself of doing Satan's work, and of those who sow "discord among the brethren". One of those falls into a category called "the unpardonable sin"... Accusing the Holy Spirit of the devil's work or vice-versa. This is too close to that for my tastes. I trust your intent isn't that, but you certainly spent a lot of time and words on something you may be wrong about, in which case- I wouldn't want to be you on judgment day. If you're sincere-- share the gospel, not the gossip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-71863321588926900102021-08-17T08:53:02.783-10:002021-08-17T08:53:02.783-10:00
..if i said it my name is on it<br />..if i said it my name is on ittom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-65769094336736655622021-08-17T02:01:29.501-10:002021-08-17T02:01:29.501-10:00Did he? Did John comment previously? More than onc...Did he? Did John comment previously? More than once? More than you, who misspells all the same words, and use the same atypical abbreviations as many of the above "anonymous" do? And "unknown"? And a half dozen other aliases and a few funny named folks who conveniently respond just after anyone making a solid point? Saying things like "Thank God for you showing me the light", etc. Seriously? I too apologize for engaging more than once in this obvious lunacy, as you might actually be only lunatic carrying on most of this 12 year back and forth. Just you, a sane person, you again (as "eyes opened" or whomever) with yada yada blah blah etc etc. I mean, you might have been in your 50s when you started this thread, now perhaps over 70, lol. And still-- Jesus is so foreign to YOU, that you don't even hear Him telling you (as He would a true servant) that Pastor Jeremiah is one of his own. His annointed, whom He said to NOT speak against. I tell you now, I am well- versed in the conspiracy theories to which you point all this, and there are plenty of places this stuff is truly embedded, but this preacher, you simply got wrong. Even poor Betty (or whatever her name is) a few years back, lol, the secretary there, took time out to address this foul-intentioned mess you made. Is she in on it too? I guess I'm just glad our Lord allows for the afflicted who "know not what they do".. But, if you ARE sane, yet doing this tearing down of a man preaching THE gospel most all his life... you'll be held accountable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-32550268475853380562021-08-16T11:17:25.931-10:002021-08-16T11:17:25.931-10:00to John E. (directly above)
There is no confusion...to John E. (directly above)<br /><br />There is no confusion:<br /><br />regarding the "piece of glass" in question <br /><br />- plain as day it is an "eye of Horus" - no way around the fact<br /><br />..nor the masonic hand signs<br /><br />nor the regular use of corrupt Westcott/Hort pseudo-bibles ...even at times the new-age one "the message"<br /><br />or his many associations with known emergent, word/faith, etc. false teachers<br /><br />and more... (read thru above comments -- notice you have commented previously also)<br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-3596256921819581402021-08-16T06:15:02.049-10:002021-08-16T06:15:02.049-10:00Tom, you should be ashamed of yourself. Whatever d...Tom, you should be ashamed of yourself. Whatever damage you have done-- whether to the character of this fine preacher of God or discouraging someone from believing the gospel because you choose to confuse over a piece of stained glass-- you will be held accountable for on judgment day. RIDICULOUS!! Anyone listening to this preacher can tell he shares the true gospel, and does so effectively, while YOU (Tom) do no such thing while criticizing. John Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06515516350464960470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-7799570211166227052020-12-10T09:45:58.589-10:002020-12-10T09:45:58.589-10:00Reply to John (directly above)
John 10:4-5
DJ p...<br />Reply to John (directly above) <br /><br />John 10:4-5<br /><br />DJ preaches out of false bibles. Truth does not come from false.<br /><br />Example: flipping channels the other day there was DJ quoting this scripture - which was displayed on the screen - supposed to be Luke 19:10 - but it said this: <br /><br />'For the Son of man <i>has</i> come to seek and to save that which was lost'<br /><br />See the problem? - says "has". Past tense. That is false doctrine. The true statement is this:<br /><br />'For the Son of man <i>is</i> come to seek and to save that which was lost' [Luke 19:10]<br /><br />..."is" - present tense (always), not "has" - past tense ...oh sorry you missed out.<br /><br />No big deal you say... wrong - it is a very big deal. It is a false gospel. Doesn't matter if it comes from "an angel from heaven". Surely you know what the bible says about that don't you - Gal. 1:8-9<br /><br />And with the TV show worldwide how many people suppose ye be deceived - never even noticing the false scripture/s - about 99.99999999999 perhaps<br /><br />Rev. 18:4<br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-440163407174910172020-12-09T01:36:20.643-10:002020-12-09T01:36:20.643-10:00I can't imagine Tom (or the other commenters w...I can't imagine Tom (or the other commenters who are falling for this) being more damaging to ACTUAL "conspiricy therories" that are indeed true, than this obviously false one about Pastor Jerimiah. It's simply false. "You'll know them by their fruits" the Word says. Not by their stained glass windows. And certainly not by the hair-brained rantings of the paranoid. Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-8894506451876645092020-06-24T19:07:24.900-10:002020-06-24T19:07:24.900-10:00Bethany (directly above),
Tom M. here - writer (O...Bethany (directly above),<br /><br />Tom M. here - writer (OP) of this blog/article... <br /><br />re: reconciling new info w/regard to Jeremiah <br /><br />If you have not already done so it may be worth the time it takes (for starters) to carefully scan down through all the above comments. There are some revealing things here and there all the way down...<br /><br />Rev_18.4tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-19122230613875819702020-06-24T12:24:27.752-10:002020-06-24T12:24:27.752-10:00Reply to Tom,
This is exactly my concern — well ...Reply to Tom, <br /><br />This is exactly my concern — well close to it. I am actually startled, as I for one, never gave this a second thought; but then, I seldom carry cash — haven’t for some time. Regardless of the source or history of the “Eye”, the pyramid beneath it says it all. This is really disturbing, and I honestly don’t know what we are meant to do with this knowledge. I have to admit that I started following David Jeremiah a couple of years ago — not on a regular basis, but definitely very much so over the last few months as he seems to be an outspoken authority on The End Times. His messages have been quite Sound from those that I’ve listened to, and his commentaries on these last days have provided a lot of insight that resonates with me as I attempt to be discerning when listening to any message — now, more than ever before. Honestly? I am struggling with just how to reconcile what I have read here with the messages I’ve listened to from him. <br /><br />By the way, my apologies to the OP as I must admit I had not read your article in its entirety prior to my first reply above. And, I apologize for the repeat posting above as the first it appeared to not have posted initially Bethanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074922923467294778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-7151483731115914132020-06-24T11:52:27.357-10:002020-06-24T11:52:27.357-10:00response to Bethany (just above)
One problem is t...response to Bethany (just above)<br /><br />One problem is that Wiki does not always tell the truth. The "eye of God/providence" has always been the 'official story' on this subject - but the fact is that a closer inspection reveals an altogether different reality - see [from this blog]:<br /><br /><a href="https://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2009/10/nwo-notifying-us-we-are-done-wyou-and.html" rel="nofollow">Real meaning of "the eye" - US dollar</a><br /><br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-63811858152046421542020-06-24T03:08:27.073-10:002020-06-24T03:08:27.073-10:00How many of us have ever actually paused and notic...How many of us have ever actually paused and noticed the Seal of The United States? This is a very important Read and is something that we need to individually bring before The Lord and asking for Discernment, Guidance, Insight, and Wisdom from The Holy Spirit regarding: <br /><br />It will not allow me to insert the hyperlink, but look up The Eye of God, The Eye of Providence, and The Seal of The United States. <br /><br />May our God Bless you & Keep you. Bethanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074922923467294778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-81681982613782441922020-06-24T03:02:44.512-10:002020-06-24T03:02:44.512-10:00This is quite interesting and worth reading. I cer...This is quite interesting and worth reading. I certainly never gave any thought to this embossment until now. This is something worth bringing to The Lord and asking for Discernment, Insight, and Wisdom... <br /><br />https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_ProvidenceBethanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074922923467294778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-5539012867819401662020-04-25T13:21:55.822-10:002020-04-25T13:21:55.822-10:00Lutz Haufschild is the artist who did the stained ...Lutz Haufschild is the artist who did the stained glass rendering and he is well known for doing a lot of church stained glass windows. He is German and I don't think he is a born again glass artist. I have seen his work in other churches and practically rubbed shoulders with him in a business. Apparently David Jeremiah doesn't think it is the all-seeing eye because I talked to him or someone else on his fb page and they emphatically denied that is what it is. I, on the other hand, tend to agree with you that this is an all-seeing eye symbol (and there are others) and that at the ignorance of David Jeremiah it was put up in the window. Maybe someone else on the staff of the building committee of the church knew what it was but kept silent. Who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-26677068401184427222020-04-16T02:25:37.861-10:002020-04-16T02:25:37.861-10:00There is no doubt that the window described is sym...There is no doubt that the window described is symbolic of the all seeing eye. Those who chose this design did so with awareness, or ignorance, either of which when advised of the similarities should have been horrified by the likeness and changed it. The fact that they didnt indicates a nonchalant attitude and a disrespect for Gods house. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537499039829292296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-49214648406258909212019-08-23T19:07:18.238-10:002019-08-23T19:07:18.238-10:00Amen! I sincerely hope no one has lost faith over ...Amen! I sincerely hope no one has lost faith over this since its posting... understanding that this preacher is most definitely a man of God preaching Christ and if you study how long ago this building was constructed and the innocence of this particular window by an artist who had no idea of any "eye of Horus", you'd dismiss this writer of the blog as a well-meaning but very wrong, perhaps paranoid man who never saw enough of this pastor's teachings to realize he himself has become the deterrent to the true message of Christ he reviles here. Go back gentle believer, and catch up on the soul winning messages you've missed these 10 years by this man of God. This blog's author is simply wrong on this one. May God help his soul.John Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06515516350464960470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-35199704063130414172019-08-23T19:05:50.160-10:002019-08-23T19:05:50.160-10:00If this man is against Christ, he is the worst at ...If this man is against Christ, he is the worst at tearing Him down I've ever seen! Even to the point of preaching messages saving souls into the kingdom, mine included!John Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06515516350464960470noreply@blogger.com