David Jeremiah And His All-Seeing Eye: What Is Up?

Casting a spell on you...

"The eye plays a most important part in occult symbolism and probably owes its origin in western magical designs to the Eye of Horus, which was one of the most frequently used of Egyptian magical symbols" (Occultist Fredrick Goodman; Magical Symbols p. 101).

David Jeremiah speaking at his home church, Shadow Mountain Community Church in San Diego, Ca.

Eye of Horus

"The All-seeing eye originated in Egypt in those Satanic Mysteries which God physically judged during the time of Moses, when he lead the Israelites out of the land by the mighty hand of God. The All-Seeing Eye was representative of the omniscience of Horus, the Sun God" [Magic Symbols, by Frederick Goodman, p. 103, Satanic symbols book].

Something Shadowy at 'Shadow Mountain'

What is wrong with this picture?

The picture is of well known TV/radio pastor, evangelist, and author David Jeremiah speaking to his congregation at his home church in San Diego, California. The church is named Shadow Mountain Community Church. Jeremiah is widely accepted as a leading figure in the evangelical Christian world today, although his contemplative (heretical) leanings [for example] of late have been pretty well documented. Here is one source to research this yourself, if interested: lighthouse trails research

Jeremiah's teaching is another subject for another time, Lord willing, and not the purpose of this post. The only comment at this time along these lines would be to say that while Jeremiah's teaching usually seems to be solid to most hearers, it is regularly interspersed with very subtle deviations from scriptural truth. One very crucial area where this is evident is a seemingly intentional blurring of the distinction between the doctrines of the 'rapture' and the 'second coming'. These two very separate events are being slyly blended together. Discern for yourself whether or not this be true. But should any object to that evaluation as being offered without evidence, let them first answer the question(s) posed here, for this question is pressing, and it is the purpose of this post.

The question is this: Why does Jeremiah have an occult 'all seeing eye' mosaic as the dominating feature in the Shadow Mountain church sanctuary? If you have seen the broadcast you may or may not have noticed this. The people in the church are apparently completely unaware of the significance of the fact that he is 'preaching' virtually from underneath the occult 'all-seeing eye', and that they are literally being made to worship before an 'image' - a symbol of an idol - an abomination standing where it ought not [cf. Mark 13:14].

Something is very wrong with this picture.

First, what about this ubiquitous all-seeing eye? In the dark magic of the occult, symbols are always used to represent spiritual things. The occult practitioners believe that the symbols have powers, and they use them for this reason. Again, the intent is not to delve into a comprehensive study of symbols, but to bring out the simple fact that those who use symbols are doing so for a reason. Here are a few quotes from some of these practitioners themselves:

[quote] “Symbolism is the language of the Mysteries ... By symbols men have ever sought to communicate to each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations of language. Rejecting man-conceived dialects as inadequate and unworthy to perpetuate divine ideas, the Mysteries thus chose symbolism as a far more ingenious and ideal method of preserving their transcendental knowledge. In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

[quote]:"All occult symbolism is in fact dualistic in meaning or interpretation, in that, it has an exoteric or outward meaning (known to the masses) and an esoteric or hidden meaning (known only to the elect few). Occultist Fredrick Goodman in his book 'Magical Symbols' (p. 6) explains: "The true magic symbol is an image which hides an inner meaning.": [secretsofmasons.com]

The inner meaning in this instance is that the 'image' of the ubiquitous all-seeing eye is not just artwork, but is the "eye of Horus" (Satan):

1. Known as the "Eye of Horus" or "Utchat Eye," it [the all-seeing eye] is associated with both the Egyptian God Horus (god of war) and his father Osiris (who along with Isis comprise the Egyptian Triad). (1) J. C. Cooper, An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols, 1995, pg. 62

2. Albert Pike, Masonic Grand Commander admitted, "...the All-seeing eye,...to the Egyptian initiates was the emblem of Osiris, the Creator." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, 1966, pp. 15-16 (i.e. masonic 'bible'); Pike was the 'Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the thirty-third degree (Mother council of the World) and Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry']

3. Called the "mal ochio" (evil eye), this object is regarded by all Satanists as the symbol of Lucifer. William J. Schnoebelen/James R. Spencer, Whited Sepulchers, 1990, p. 20 (1,2,3 @ http://libertytothecaptives.net/all_seeing_eye.html)

Apart from those who would plead ignorance, the true meaning of the 'eye' and it's identification with the world of the occult is generally beyond dispute, but, what then is the occult purpose for the use of this 'symbol' of the all-seeing eye?

[quote] As one Masonic book says, "These considerations lead us to an interesting topic, the Eye of Mind or the Eye of Horus ... and conveying the idea of the 'All seeing Eye'. The end set before the Egyptian neophyte was illumination, that is to be 'brought to light'. The Religion of Egypt was the Religion of the Light". [Thomas Milton Stewart, The Symbolism of the Gods of the Egyptians and the Light They Throw on Freemasonry, London, England, Baskerville Press, Ltd., 1927, p. 5]

In the mind of the occultist then, the use of the symbol is in it's power to "illuminate" the neophyte, the unlearned, so as to bring them to the "religion of light". Which leads then to the next question: What exactly is the "religion of light"?

[quote]: "Albert Pike writes in Morals and Dogma [Masonic 'bible'] that Lucifer is the "light-bearer" [p. 321, teachings of the 19th Degree], and is the "Angel of Light" on p. 567, teachings of the 26th Degree]." (http://www.justdosh.com/book%20preview%208.htm)

"...in Egyptian Mythology, Horus IS Lucifer [Former Satanist, William Schnoebelen, Masonry: Beyond The Light, p. 197]"

Understanding the statements of the two 'experts' quoted directly above, this "religion of light", emanating from ancient Egypt, is nothing less than the outright worship of Lucifer. It was back then, it is today still. The reality is that this 'religion' is Luciferianism, and the predominant symbol for it is the 'eye of Horus', aka Lucifer. Truly, this is a clear fact.

This 'one eye' is absolutely everywhere today, from corporate logos to an unceasing bombardment in movies and on television programs and commercials. On the television, clever camera angles and partially shaded faces are used to endlessly flash the 'one eyed' curse. If you watch for it, you will be astounded.

Generally speaking, according to the quoted masonic sources above, it is fair to say that the secret society/occultists are using the 'eye of Horus' in an effort to do what they would describe as 'illuminating' the masses, so as to bring them to the 'religion of light'. Much more accurate to say though, and the truth of the matter, is that in their minds it is to literally 'cast a spell' on the ignorant masses, subliminally flooding their subconscious minds with the power of their symbol, for the purpose of preparing the world for the arrival of their Anti-christ.

Back to the original question. Why is David Jeremiah preaching 'his message' from under the Luciferian 'all-seeing eye', and broadcasting it across the globe?

1JOHN 4:1 'Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.'
Another problem. The "Horned Hand", El Cornuto or The Mano Cornuto: It is a widely known Satanic salute of recognition. It is not a normative position for the human hand. The hand does not naturally take this position. It is no more of a normal hand position than is the universally recognized sign of 'flipping the bird'. It has to be consciously formed. Many people obviously do this without any intent of showing any willful allegiance to the Devil. To them it is basically "party on dude". Regardless of that, many, from rock stars to high ranking politicians to wealthy celebrities use the horned hand knowingly as a semi-secret sign to each other, and as a recognition of the source of their 'power' (for instance). A google of 'horned hand' will provide ample evidence for any who want to investigate the matter further.

Here then is the next question. And while it is not really a pleasant one to have to consider, at the same time, taking everything into consideration, it is a fair question: Is David Jeremiah, preaching here from under the watchful gaze of the all-seeing eye of the NWO Antichrist, as this sequence of photos show [clipped from video], making the 'horned hand' signal?

You be the judge, you be the jury.

(note also that the right hand appears to be 'hidden' - see bottom of page for more on this and other questionable hand signs/arm formations)
For a compelling and thought provoking comparison, here is an interesting photo. This stained-glass window is in the prayer room in the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington D.C. [here]

Shown kneeling in prayer is master mason George Washington. Above his head the banner states "This Nation Under God". Above that banner though, is the reverse side of so-called "great seal of the United States", with the 'Eye of Horus' radiating 'light', and holding the preeminent position in the Capitol Building prayer room. (The front side of the 'seal' is below Washington)

So we have George Washington on one knee in prayer, under the 'Eye of Horus', in the U.S. Capitol's prayer room.

Seeing this, should it not be presumed that a 'hidden message' could also be found in the symbolism of this stained glass window? Which begs the question: Is this symbolism revealing that the 'god' under which 'this nation' was founded is actually 'Horus' i.e. Lucifer?

This quote from the 'Masonic Lodge of Education' may provide some
'illuminaton' on the questions raised in this post:

The All Seeing Eye, like many other Masonic symbols, has been borrowed from the past from the nations of antiquity...The Egyptian God, Osiris: The Egyptians represented Osiris, their chief deity, by the symbol of an open eye and placed this hieroglyphic of him in all their temples. http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/masonic-eye.html

"All their temples"? Does that include the U.S. Capitol, and Shadow Mountain Community Church?

1 John 1:6 'If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth'

Pertinent to the case, here now are a few insightful words from many years past on the subject in question, which should also prove to be thought provoking:

The Trial Of Spirits - Both In Teachers And Hearers Wherein Is Held Forth The Clear Discovery, And Certain Downfall, Of The Carnal And Anti Christian Clergy Of These Nations

Testified from the Word of God, to the University in Cambridge, by William Dell, Minister of the Gospel, and Master of Gonvil and Caius College, In Cambridge, London, Printed in 1666, Philadelphia, Reprinted by Benjamin Franklin and D. Hall in 1760

This section, from the above booklet printed by Benjamin Franklin, serves as a history lesson on false prophets and false teachers that we need to heed today. Why take to heart William Dell and his exegesis of the Word of God? Because what he described is EXACTLY what we are seeing today being played out with the likes of Rick Warren and the purpose drivers, the so-called New Apostolic Reformation, and the 'emerging church'/global spiritualists, all together comprising a whole host of false apostles, prophets and teachers.
William Dell on 'False Prophets'

Wherefore we declare unto you from the Word of the Lord, touching these false prophets, who shall do so much mischief:

1. That they shall not proceed, or come forth from among the...Turks, or out of the barbarous Nations, they shall arise out of such as are called Christians.

2. Seeing amongst the Christians some are openly profane and evil, others seem to be religious and godly, the false prophets shall be found among the better sort; and therefore, saith Christ, they shall come in "sheeps clothing", as if they were of Christ's own flock: And Paul saith "They have a form of Godliness", that is, they shall be painted over gloriously, with all appearances of Truth, righteousness, honesty, goodness and all the names of godliness.

3. Seeing amongst those that seem to be the better sort of Christians, some give themselves to the ministry of the Word, and some do not; the false prophets shall be found among those Christians, who take upon themselves to be preachers, as Paul testifies (Acts 20) where having called together the elders and teachers of the church of Ephesus, he saith to them, "Ex vobis ipsis; Out of your ownselves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them".

And seeing among those who are ministers, some are light, and vain, and carnal, and formal persons; and other men of great worth and reputation, and seem to be precious members of Christ, and even pillars in the Church, so that the common people think, that all religion would go down with such good men; they having some gifts and enlightenings of the spirit, and seeming more than ordinarily godly, religious, wise, holy, sober, devout; now the false prophets shall be found among these.

And as they who opposed Christ at his first coming in the flesh, seem more wise, and holy, and eminent in the Church than the rest, as the Scribes and Pharisees, who sat in Moses' chair, and had the outward letter of the Word in all exactness, and the outward form of religion in all strictness; so they, who do, and shall most oppose Christ in His coming in His Spirit, and shall contradict His Word, and resist His servants and witnesses of His Truth, do, and shall appear more wise, holy, learned, and godly, than the rest of the teachers in the Church.

And thus you see, that the false prophets of Anti-christ shall arise among Christians; and among such Christians as seem to be godly; and among such seeming godly Christians as preach the Word; and among such preachers of the Word as seem to be of greater worth and eminency than the rest: and so in all these regards it will be a hard matter to discern them.

4. Again, such persons, of such appearance and worth and holiness as these, do usually get to their side the greatest and highest persons in the kingdoms and nations, and do obtain, not only their countenance and favour, but also their power and authority for themselves.

5. By both these means (viz. their seeming holiness, and their interest with worldy powers) they exceedingly enlarge their credit and reputation with the world, and do get multitudes of people and nations to entertain them. For Anti-christ could not decieve the world with a company of foolish, weak, ignorant, prophane, contemptable persons, but he always hath the greatest, the wisest, holiest, and most eminent in the visible church for him, and by these he seduces and subjects to himself, even the whole world.
Rev. 18:4



Still more problems. The peculiar photos below (except the last one) were clipped from the same video that the above Jeremiah photos came from. The page images and quotes are from the book Codex Magica, by Texe Marrs. There is an entire chapter devoted in this book to each of the two Masonic hand/arm formations seen below, as well as chapters on the horned-hand and the all-seeing eye. Chapter 11 is about the 'X' formation, and chapter 4 is given to a comprehensive look at the sign of the 'hidden hand'. The book contains numerous photos and much more information on these subjects for anyone who is interested, and for that reason it is not necessary to post it here. There is a link to an online source for the book at the bottom of the page. These things here are offered as observations. Very curious observations, that is, which raise further questions. It should be noted that in viewing Jeremiah's program, these and other peculiar motions, or hand/arm formations, seem to be done with some frequency:
The Mysterious 'X' Factor

"An X is an ancient symbol for change or transformation...long associated in medieval and renaissance art with the coming of the Messiah [Horus/Osiris] who shall make all things new.—Jim Tresner, 33° Scottish Rite Journal" (Codex Magica, pg. 205)

(quoted from above page image; pg. 208 Codex Magica): X Symbol in the Masonic Lodge

One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest. This sign refers to the penalty assessed if any secrets learned are ever divulged. Then, in the ritual ceremony for the Select Master Degree, the Second Sign is made by crossing the hands and arms just below the neck and dropping them downward quickly. Again, this is a reminder of the disclosure penalty, which is to have the body butchered and quartered.

Question: Is David Jeremiah making these two signs - which are here said to be associated with the "coming of the [all-seeing eye] Messiah"?

'These ancient Egyptian figures demonstrate how prevalent was Osiris' sacred sign, "X"'

The hidden hand

"...taken directly from Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor (3rd Edition). It pictures the Royal Arch Mason performing the magical Sign of the Master of the Second Veil, which I informally and more informatively call here the Sign of the Hidden Hand of the Men of Jahbuhlun. According to Duncan's the candidate presents this sign when he is approached by three sojourners from Babylon. Their objective: Rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and eventually establish a world empire of the Jews. In his teaching course on Ancient Masonry, C.C. Zain of The Brotherhood of Light explains..."The sign is made," writes Zain, "by thrusting the hand into the bosom and again drawing it out." [Codex Magica; pg. 57-58]

[Quoted from above page image; pg. 58 Codex Magica]: "Sign of the Master of the Second Veil, or informally, sign of the hidden hand of the Men of Jahbuhlun (Richards monitor of Freemasonry, pg. 74); and, "Guards of the Conclave during the ritual for the Knights of the Christian Mark Degree. (Richardson's Monitor of Freemasonry. p. 123)"

[Quoted from above page image]: "In this ad for Hitachi Electronics, Napoleon is using the left-handed path (dark occultism) of magic. Napoleon was also reputed to be an llluminatus and an initiate into the Greater Mysteries (Areopagite degree). Note also the sun sign (Maltese) badge." [Codex Magica, pg. 73]

Question(s): Again, from underneath the 'cover' of the Luciferian all seeing eye, is David Jeremiah making the Masonic sign of the hidden hand? And secondly, is David Jeremiah making the sign of the hidden hand using the '"left-handed path" as seen in the photo directly above?

Judge for yourself.
The book can be found online here: Codex Magica by Texe Marrs
1TIMOTHY 4:1 'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils'

one last thing...

Man of Jahbuhlun?

This unnatural arm-hand position, with the right hand strangely 'hidden', is repeated regularly (compare this photo with the 'horned hand' photo above). Is this a modified hidden-hand, so as to presumably avoid detection? Also very interesting to note is when it is done, i.e. what is being said at that moment. Watch and see.

According to "Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor (3rd edition)" as quoted from the 'Codex Magica' page image above, the hidden hand is used to signify the intent to "rebuild the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and eventually establish a world empire of the Jews".

That, by definition, is "Zionism".

Again, you be the judge, you be the jury.

1John 1:5 'This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all'


Anonymous said...

I have been watching this pastor every sunday, and i really liked the show, but my mouth dropped open when i saw in the back ground of the horis eye in the church, i asked myself Im i seeing what i think Im seeing ? and if so WHY ? oh all i can say is pray about everything you might feel is right or wrong, i was totally caught off guard for sure. oh how satan is such a deciver... Iam so glad someone else caught this besides me.

tom m. said...


Thanks for the comment, it is always encouraging to hear a good report.

This is something that has been really bothering me for quite a while.

It needs to be exposed...also an understanding that if this is what is showing on the 'outside'...what exactly is lurking on the 'inside'?

Cannot be good...

Revelation 3:11 'Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.'

Anonymous said...

I'd be interested in his comments to all this. (Like, explain the eye window ....for starts.)

Anonymous said...

I sent an eMail to Pastor Jeremiah asking why he had the "Eye of Horus," a well-known occult symbol, so prominently displayed in his church. I had a reply from his assistant within hours:

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is a stained glass art piece above the baptistry. It includes a large gold circle, with a red circle inside that with a cross and small red circle at the center of the cross. Just below the cross is an open Bible and the words just below that are: “The Entrance of thy words giveth light.” Psalm 119:130."

So it seems they're passing it off as "circles," rather than an eye.

Anonymous said...

It's also interesting to note that the window depicting Washington kneeling under the pyramid is directly over the alter in the congressional prayer room.

tom m. said...


Thanks. Those who come to the altar then, are actually bowing directly before the eye. That is very telling.

The Capitol Building link on the prayer room window is here

It's worth checking out. There are other hidden things in that window.

and Anon,

Good work on getting the official explanation from Shadow Mountain.

(quoting from it:)

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is..."

So then, according to them, it is 'sheer coincidence' that the "image" behind the pulpit just so happens to look EXACTLY like the image of the "Utchat Eye"

Good one Horus...
'Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

And ye shall serve the LORD your God...'

Exodus 23:24-25a

Anonymous said...

I approached Shadow Mountain about the "eye" in the stained glass and received a response similar to one posted in an earlier comment. They also sent me a picture of the window that allowed me to zoom in. On closer look it is clearly a cross with a circle around the top, doesn't look like an eye at all(I wish I knew a way to share the photo). If you request a photo from Shadow Mountain I'm sure they'll be glad to send you a copy. The picture in the blog was from a distance and angle, and I can see where it may look like an eye, but to post such negative commments without doing the required due diligence of studying the picture is disgraceful.

tom m. said...


The 'eye' is painfully obvious, nothing at all to do with the angle of the photo. The fact that it is an abstract and disguised as a mosaic is no surprise at all, rather it is to be expected, even the fact that upon a 'close up', the 'hidden symbol' may not be so evident.

This is clearly explained in the these two quotes taken from the article itself:

[quote] “Symbolism is the language of the Mysteries ... By symbols men have ever sought to communicate to each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations of language. Rejecting man-conceived dialects as inadequate and unworthy to perpetuate divine ideas, the Mysteries thus chose symbolism as a far more ingenious and ideal method of preserving their transcendental knowledge. In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

[quote]:"All occult symbolism is in fact dualistic in meaning or interpretation, in that, it has an exoteric or outward meaning (known to the masses) and an esoteric or hidden meaning (known only to the elect few). Occultist Fredrick Goodman in his book 'Magical Symbols' (p. 6) explains: "The true magic symbol is an image which hides an inner meaning.": [secretsofmasons.com]

Rest assured that the proper due diligence was given to the subject.

Rev. 18:4

Anonymous said...

I do not accept the due diligence was done, as that would have got in the way of a good conspiracy. In my opinion you have completely misrepresented the art on the stained glass and it appears to be solely to add ammunition to what appears to be a smear campaign of Dr Jeremiah. To support my claim, I will be pleased to send you the photo provided to me, or please request same from info@shadowmountain.org. They are very responsive. After viewing I would challenge you to post the pic on this Blog as I believe it completely invalidates your inflated claims and in no way is refelctive of the "all seeing eye of Egypt". I do not know Dr Jeremiah personally, all I can judge him by is his preaching. I listen to him each morning and while I may have the odd doctrinal difference with some comments, his teaching is clearly Christ focused and Bible based. May I suggest that you listen to him on radio, then you can hear the message clearly without the distractions of the window or whatever else may be an obstacle for you. If you have issues with his message, I would be glad to hear it but please do not create a straw man and then look for other deficiencies to hang on it.

Anonymous said...

If you take off your tinfoil hat, let's get to some facts.

First off, your assertion that Freemasonry is Luciferian is pure hogwash. Please do some research on the "Taxil Hoax" and you will find that almost all references to Lucifer have been long ago revealed as a hoax.

Second, Dr. Jeremiah is a Godly Christian man who preaches solid Bible-based messages. To infer that he is being deceived by Satan or that Satan is using him to deceive is so amazingly short-sighted.

Finally, that a symbol is the "All-seeing eye of God" not the eye of Horace. It is typically taken to be a universal symbol of the omniscience of God. For a Christian to deny the omniscience of God is again ludicrous. Just because he doesn't have a cross or a picture of Jesus certainly doesn't make him or his church any less Christian.

OK, you can put your tin foil hats back on now.

tom m. said...

John 10:4-5

"...and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers"

go here

Anonymous said...

"Those that are deceived deserve to be deceived".

NLunn said...

Dear Tin Foil Hat, You make me laugh; your comments are well intentioned.
I suggest you begin to do some serious homework. You are not yet in the running.... None of us knows what we don't know.


tom m. said...

re: "none of us knows what we don't know"?

Speak for yourself - which you have actually done.

I would refer you back to the eighth comment; you will have to count them down; from which this quote from master occultist Manly P. Hall:

In a single figure a symbol may both reveal and conceal, for to the wise the subject of the symbol is obvious, while to the ignorant the figure remains inscrutable.” — Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. 20

NLunn so blind as those who refuse to see the 'obvious'.

Anonymous said...


T.C. said...

I do go to his church and have for over 20 years.and I can tell you. This is all hogwash. When he ventures away from his pulpit. he often folds his hands. He had double knee surgery last year so he didnt move too much. I have never noticed the evil eye. All services are streamed and can be watched. and most services are kept online for roughly 6 months. I often feel he could go a lot deeper in his teaching. but that's another topic. Here is the church link. watch and decide things for yourself. God Bless All. He is the real deal. I have talked to him a many times. I know his children. I was once in his home.

tom m. said...


re: "I do go to his church and have for over 20 years...I have never noticed the evil eye"

That admission would have to call into question your discernment.

(note the comment right above yours for comparison)

re: "When he ventures away from his pulpit. he often folds his hands"

The hand/arm formations/gestures pictured are done not away from the pulpit but from the pulpit.

Calling this hogwash does not change the facts.

T.C. said...

"The Entrance of thy words giveth light" is what it says. I am a first person source to the man. that is a fact. People often find what they are looking for.
"The hand/arm formations/gestures pictured are done not away from the pulpit but from the pulpit."
I meant.
He doesnt stand behind his pulpit for the whole sermon he walks 10 - 15 feet away from the pulpit during it and this is often when he folds his arms making a point usually.
The picture obviously showed him on the platform with the old blue background. The current background is now Brown and has been for over a year. If anything I thought of the window as a christian fish symbol if anything. But why don't you accept a christian's answer for what it is. And to say that someone who kneels at the alter after God has spoke to their heart and is actually worshipping in front of an idol is shamefull.
I suggest if your staring at a stained glass window instead of listening to what is said might be a problem. If you Listen to Dr. Jeremiah I assure you you are not being deceived by Satan. Remember he is the "accuser of the brethren" which seems to be going on here. Huh?

tom m. said...

A christian fish? Huh?

At any rate you are quite free to disregard all this as hogwash if you do not see any problem.

Rev. 18:4

T.C. said...

You know like the christian fish symbol (sticker) people put on their cars?
I do know how you see what you see. it is very understandible. I was just relaying my experience because I actually go to his chruch.

tom m. said...


fyi: This is not a stand alone issue. Jeremiah also promotes pseudo-christian new agers and their teachings; for example...here is a link to a recent [3-28-11] 'Lighthousetrailsresearch' article on Jeremiah:

David Jeremiah’s Book Life Wide Open – Still Sold on His Website – Still Includes New Agers

quote: "Lighthouse Trails receives emails from time to time from readers asking if there is still “a problem” with David Jeremiah and his 2003 (redone in 2005) book, Life Wide Open...

“This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…” (p. xii) Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd (When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God)."

[also message 'bible' creator Eugene Peterson...and others]

Ephesians 5:11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them"

Anonymous said...

Wow!!!! You really can't refute some of the hand gestures and poses this man is making!!! What is the likelihood that this many coincidences can be displayed by this man and eyebrows not be raised? If the " mosaic" in the back is causing such a dispersion on your ministry why not change it????? If I was preaching end time prophecy I definitely wouldn't want to have this emblem behind me!!!

The Paradise Reporter said...

Ha! I stumbled upon your page while looking for something else tonight & noticed in the links the David Jeremiah/Eye of Horus article, lol. I chuckle because I thought the same exact thing when I first saw it on TV a few years ago. I sent an email about it back in October 2008 to my yahoogroup subscribers. (That post is still online but the photos were not saved online at YGs). See that post here:

Your other photos of DJ crossing his arms on his chest & slipping his fingers under his lapel are a hoot! Verrry interesting! Since I am not a man & don't wear suits, do men often have the urge to slip their fingers/hand under their lapels? Unless he had an itch in that spot, I can't imagine doing that naturally without thinking about it first. :)

Ditto the criss-crossing his hands across his chest... unless he was describing cuddling an infant or some other beloved subject he holds close to his heart. But even then... Hmm.

All together, beginning with the big eye, it's hard to trust these people, like TBN's Praise The Lord program whose introduction for Years (until very very recently) opened with the giant 666 "hidden in plain sight" disguised as beams or ribbons of light that swirl around to form the 666.

On the other hand, because there is so much of this occult symbolism everywhere now, & after contemplating it for years, I couldn't help wondering if the Masons, Illuminati, Luciferians, Kabbalists, etc. had not long ago infiltrated all the arts & graphic design schools & logo companies (you notice they now call it BRANDING) & brainwashing students & employees to the usage of such symbolism & urging them to include same in their designs.

A few years after considering that that also might be what is happening, I read a comment somewhere where a person stated that very thing.

Bottom Line, it could be either or both. Probably Both!

Another example: Several years back the banks & credit card companies began using photos of a single human eye in their advertising. Before long, EVERYBODY (from celebs, rock stars, musicians, AND even Christian ministries & Christian kids cartoons) began using a single human eye on EVERYTHING, fliers, book covers, videos, advertisements, etc. All of which irks me all over the place! because (a) It cannot be coincidence; & (b) I know from which it comes! Back to the All-Seeing EYEBALL.

It irks me because, hello, God has TWO eyes & so do we because we were "made in His image." The one-eye supposedly being the Eye of Providence/God is baloney, fed to the masses by the Deceiver himself.

OK, that's my Christian rant for the day. :) Keep up the good service & insights.

Anonymous said...

I recently bought a TV and came upon the man I had occassionally listened to on radio. And I was stunned when I saw the All-seeing on mingled with the pyramid. I immediately sent an e-mail to them, thinking I must be the first person to notice this and must inform them. They described an open Bible, a cross, etc. Hog-wash. It's confusing then about what these people are up to when they seem to be teaching us things of God. WHAT ARE THEY UP TOO!!!???

Anonymous said...

"No one knows what they do not know". Good comment. Correct. Those who are defending the all-seeing eye behind the pulpit in this building do not understand what they are looking at. They have not "done their homework", as was stated earlier. "None so blind as those who will not see".

Anonymous said...

Good job exposing this wolf. Hopefully more like him get exposed and the remnant will open their eyes and stop following people like him. If he really is involved in the mysteries and claims to be a minister of the Lord Jesus may he repent before he faces judgement! I'm sick and tired of seeing all the brainwashed believers follow these preachers.

Some people commented that it was just a mosaic of circles and a cross. If that's so then he should still remove it because what you see on TV, and I'm sure what you see if your in that church on SUNday is a perverted form of the eye of horus.

Anonymous said...

It's odd to me that a "Christian" church would have such a sketchy image in there place of worship. How could anyone think that it doesn't look like an all seeing eye? Are you blind? If I walked into a church and there was a huge stained glass pyramid behind the paster every Sunday I would not attend no matter how sound the doctrine. Any church that would let that fly has deeper intentions in my opinion.

P.S. The pulpit has leaf branches with 7 sets of leaves. A very holy number to the Freemasons. Could be a coincidence but with a huge all seeing eye in the background I'm guessing it's on purpose.

Anonymous said...

I am just blown away at the people on this post. Can you really be serious? Listen to David Jeremiah's sermons. He clearly and plainly declares the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to heaven. He preaches the blood of Jesus. He preaches hell hot and heaven sure to all who repent of their sins and place faith in Christ. That is not what Satan wants his ministers preaching!!! It is so sad that other "Christians" attack a man who is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE my friend and ask if Satan would approve. He would not. Worrying about a stained glass window and accusing David Jeremiah of being something other than a God called man to exalt Jesus and God's Word is the work of the devil. It is Satan who is the "accuser of the brethren" so everyone of you who are attacking him and not taking into account the message that he preaches are simply "accusers" and that's the real work of the devil. shame, shame, shame on you, and you will answer to the Lord Jesus Christ for every idle word you speak.

tom m. said...

No idle words here but legitimate questions.

re: "listen to the message"

Not to belabor the point, but aside from the symbolism and gestures, many more questions are in fact raised by Jeremiah's "message", which could very well be described as 'mixed' - e.g. his documented promotion of 'christian new agers' (as mentioned in a comment above [8 up from this one]).

1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Anonymous said...

Today I went to shadow Mountain Church. and I don t know really why, but I did want to celebrate my day with YHWH, and decided to go where my neighbor normally worship. It was around 2/3 into the sermon, i closed my eyes and was telling YHWH how great he is in my life, and thanking the Lord Yahshuah when i open my eyes slowly and almost felt to the ground. I first tough i was "tripping" that my imagination had gone to far, bu I notice that the cross inside the circle it is even side inside it, but it top length stretch outside up, making an upside cross. I couldn't believe, so a squeezed my eyes and got really dumb folded when I saw the eye. Not just an eye, but the eye, with inclusive the detail that stretch down on the left side. I just couldn't believe, it couldn't be, but it is. I couldn't take of my mind, so as I was surfing the net, I decided to type shadow mountain on google picture, and came across this site. THANK YOU so much to make me feel normal again, I was really thinking i was nuts. I'm not a religious person, but I know the Lord. I am a sinner confessed, but I am not crazy. That is the eye of Horus. I don't believe that the people that go to that church knows that, but "THEY" will hide their message in plain sight. I am heart broken,with such deception and wish I was wrong, but in my heart I know I am not. It is a sad day to me, for I have to look into my neighbor eyes and see that he is being led blind wrongly.

tom m. said...

Hi anon...it's very apparent from your comment that your dismay is definitely heartfelt...and good for that...

For the record though I must make an objection here in reference to the usage of the incorrect judaized nomenclature, so increasingly common these days, for the LORD God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

To do so detracts from the Person and work of Christ Jesus, and especially from the name given him by God himself:

"And...the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth...And the angel said unto her...Mary...behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luke 1:26-33 (cf. Matt. 1:18-21; an angel also visits Joseph with the same message)
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil. 2:9-11

laursdav said...

I turned the "Church Channel" today because I have been reading a lot lately about "evangelical" pastors that are in the public eye (no pun intended) that are actually Free Masons. So curiosity got the best of me today and I decided just to check out a Christian t.v. station to see if I could find any Free Mason, Illuminati, Occult symbolism in the background, or something that the people on the station were talking about or doing with their hands that looked sketchy. I honestly thought I was acting a little overboard and didn't expect to find ANYTHING. I felt a little silly, but just for kicks thought I would try. And can you believe that when I turned to that station the FIRST program I saw was David Jeremiah (who I thought was a doctrinally sound theologian), and an All Seeing Eye right behind him!!! Like Anonymous, I couldn't believe it when I first saw it and my mouth literally dropped open wide!! David Jeremiah?! I'm dumbfounded! I just saw this an hour ago and came online to see if anyone else has been talking about this. It's so true, I am questioning EVERY pastor now. Even if it sounds true, we need to scrutinize what they are saying and how they are acting. Satan is like a wolf in sheep clothing. Thanks for posting this!!!! I am glad to see that there are other people, followers of Jesus, that are waking up to this world-wide deception that is going on!! God bless you all!

Man from Modesto said...

It is absolutely true that the masons and other satanists, elites, and "Insiders" mark their works with secret symbols to gain support.

Another tactic is to rewrite history so that all the greats are made out to have been with them. Washington, I believe, was NOT a mason. The main "evidence" is a painting of Washington wearing a mason bib. It was painted more than a hundred years after his death.

Another symbol they use are the "square and compass", which represent a woman's and a man's legs, to form "the union of the opposites".

Yet another is 32 or 322. I have a compilation of how this particular symbol is used: http://hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Conditioning-in-Movies-MInd-Control

tom m. said...

to Modesto,

re: "Washington, I believe, was NOT a mason"

You must not then have ever heard of the George Washington Masonic Memorial located in Alexandria, Virginia, outside Washington, D.C.

from home page: "The George Washington Masonic Memorial is more than a colossal memorial and museum. It is a tourist attraction and destination; research center and library; community center; performing arts center and concert hall; banquet and celebration site; and meeting site for local and countless visiting Masonic lodges and organizations. However, first and foremost, it is a memorial to honor and perpetuate the memory, character and virtues of the man who best exemplifies what Freemasons are and ought to be, Brother George Washington."

from 'History' page: "Washington was initiated an Entered Apprentice on November 4, 1752, passed to Fellowcraft on March 3, 1753, and raised to Master Mason on August 4, 1753"

That Washington was in fact a "master mason" is beyond question...there is a museum to attest to it.

Man from Modesto said...

Like I said, all evidence indicating Washington is fabricated by Masons AFTER Washington died.

They also are trying to reinvent the father of modern physics and math, Isaac Newton, as a Mason. He was not. Einstein, too, they want everyone to believe was on their team.

Masons (Rockefeller) stole the work of Tesla and pieced it out to Masons to take credit.

They do this for recruiting. They want to recruit the best and brightest, and so claim that history's best and brightest all belong to them. Lies!

Anonymous said...

Most of you will not appreciate this comment, but here it is. Jeremiah just gave a very visceral and emotive message on God's grace and the abolition of the Old Testament law. As a Sabbath Keeper (NOT SDA, which still celebrates the ancient pagan religion of Ishtar [Easter]), it makes perfect sense if he is in collusion with the Masons and a worldwide agenda. It all ties together if he is a Mason. He is encouraging everyone to follow all of the Ten Commandments except one (#4).

My dear Protestants and servants of Christ: if Sunday is the Lord's day, why would the purely Luciferian NWO enact a law REQUIRING everyone to worship on it? This law will take place eventually. Just something to think about. I have relatives that cannot be convinced as of yet, so I am not trying to convince you to automatically obey ALL of the Ten Commandments. Just think about it. Hope I wasn't too trollish, God bless.

tom m. said...

truly regenerate believer...

"Ye are not under law, but under grace." (Romans 6:14)

Nothing can be added.

Anonymous said...

I was a little shocked when I read this--but then again every day we hear of more things about pastors all over the US. The one thing I do not like about David Jeremiah is that he uses the Message bible. Anyone that uses the message bible(which I can't even stand to call it a bible) I lose a respect for their teaching.

Anonymous said...

While watching D.J. this morning I noticed a SHADOW being cast onto the wall out where the customers sit, I looked closer to possibly see it's source/reason THEN to my surprise I saw what this blog points out. This is NOT surprising because about a year or so ago he had a REEDUCATION series called "What WE have IN COMMON with Muslims" D.J. uses the SAME process of transformation/transition as the Marxists
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
It is the MERGING of OPPOSITES, in this mornings REEDUCATION "sermon" nearly ALL of his speech was quotes by Atheist etc. he gives his about LAST 3 minutes to reading a FEW "bible verses" with NO TRANSLATION NOTED. This is simply bait and switch, have you noticed that D.J. caries himself as a Psychotherapist in his mannerisms and quite noticeable, at least to me, is his eyes look dead, NO LIGHT, just like some clips I've seen of Jim Jones BEFORE he began wearing his signature dark sunglasses.

tom m. said...

re: 'no light'

Definitely no light, as you point out, in fact it is truly "another sprit" that is empowering what goes on there, like the scripture verses below describe. Watching it gives a sickening feeling.

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 'But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him'

To whom it may concern...

Bear no more.

sAint said...

i came online looking for a pic post about his ring, did you know freemasons wear there special rings on the right hand ring finger? and alot of the time its a square black ring alot like his... after finding this i realised i wasnt crazy for thinking ive been staring at an eye everytime i watch his show each week,i also have noticed the "horns" come from his hands a few times and had made odd mental notes of them but didnt put this all together tll reading this blog, it all makes sence now,EVERYTHING in the media is controlled and operated now by the elite satanist's or "illuminated" ones haha ... may the True God of Jacob bless you!

Anonymous said...

I came upon this website whilst trying to find out why they have the eye of Horus in their church. I used to be involved in the occult before I became a Christian, and quite frankly, it shocked me when I noticed it. This can't be good ...

David Grosse said...

I had never seen DJ on TV as we have never wanted one in our house. Our church did use his video for a SS class and that is where I imediatelly noticed the eye. It's time to wake up. There is no forgiveness of sin without total repentance from sin. To dabble or flurt with sin is to deny the LORD.

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
(Titus 1:16)

Anonymous said...

I haven't been listening to him recently but as of a few years ago his messages seemed to ring very true to me. "By their fruits ye shall know them". I think its more important to focus on the message, rather than the messenger.

Of course he should remove the image. Its not as if they don't have the money. If something divides believer unnecessarily, it should be removed as soon as possible. Just the hint of a satanic symbol is cause for concern. Perhaps he has an emotional attachment to it and pride is stopping him from authorizing its removal. Perhaps he wasn't involved in the choice of the image and doesn't realize its significance. Perhaps he doesn't realize the reaction of so many people to it as he probably doesn't read all the email pouring into the place.

Yes its wrong.
Yes it should be replaced.
But it doesn't mean he is behind it. Listen to the message more than the messenger. Satan does like to tear down Christian leaders and disqualify all the good works they do. No Christian leader is perfect. Jeremiah is demonstrating that by not replacing this image that smacks of freemasonry and anybody that can read and has read about freemasonry knows it is evil to the very core.

tom m. said...


Actually there are numerous problems with Jeremiah's 'message'.

On that note, Jeremiah's frequent use of the perverted 'message' so-called bible reveals much. The 'message bible' is without question "another gospel" - and it comes with "another spirit" [2Cor. 11:3-4]

Also, borrowing from a comment above - Jeremiah often promotes pseudo-christian new agers and their teachings: "David Jeremiah’s Book Life Wide Open – Still Sold on His Website – Still Includes New Agers

“This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…” (p. xii) Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd (When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God)." lighthousetrails 3-28-11

Additionally, unbiblical source material similar to the above mentioned is regularly added into sermons.

Truth with subtle error woven in is no longer truth.

Lastly, the man is the message.

Try the spirits 1John 4:1

Anonymous said...

Since names are always significant, I researched the name of the church (Shadow Mountain Community Church) and discovered that the shadow of a mountain is always in the shape of a triangle (pyramid), regardless of the shape of the mountain. In light of the fact that the church has this great all-seeing eye prominently displayed in their church, this does seem a rather odd choice of name ...

Anonymous said...

I attended this church for Easter services this past Sunday. I was aware of this site and this posting, previously and so when in San Diego, definitely wanted to check it out the all-seeing eye, which is so clearly visible when viewed on tv, for myself. What struck me, in=person, is that the image of the all-seeing eye is NOT evident in-person, when you're up-close or in the sanctuary. Instead, the viewer, does indeed see the separate parts of the cross and Bible explained by the email response by the church. YET, the eye is blatantly visible ONLY when televised to the 'masses' & can clearly be seen in his televised sermons. I am sad, b/c I like DJ's teachings and books; yet cannot dismiss the evidence on tv. It reminds me of those drawing that you stare at and after a while, you relax your eyes and can see hidden images. In this case, however, the hidden image is in your face on tv

tom m. said...

Interesting 'eye' witness report.

re: "hidden" images

see comment #8 counting down from top

Anonymous said...

I'm in agreement with a previous poster, there is definitely an upside-down cross within the all-seeing-eye.

The cross is a golden color, and is surrounded by a redish circle. The vertical beam extends ABOVE the circle, but NOT below it, making it an inverted cross.

If you follow the color of the cross, you can plainly see it. This is irrefutable proof that the window is sinister. A lot of effort went into that design and it wasn't accidental.

Anonymous said...

Hidden in plain sight!! OMG. i have bee listening to his preaching every night for the past couple of weeks.. though i loved the sermons i had this uneasy feel the i dismissed it as me trying to be wise.. but in hindsight i now believe it as the Holy spirit in me discerning the spirit. I only became aware of it whe i saw the eye of horus!! n from listening to his preaching n his teachings i thought surely this man has studied enough in theology to be aware that this symbol is a sign of the occult.. if so he allows it up there in his church knowingly. oh mann let us remain awake lest we be deceived, may we be grounded in Gods word lest we be moved, let us be i constant fellowship with the Holy spirit that we know when it is not Him speaking. The bible already warns us of this. may we not be included in that verse that states that in the end times eve some of the elect will be deceived. JESUS REIGNS!


Anonymous said...

I think it's important to remember also Satan is a deceiver and he can turn anything into an occult sign.

David Jeremiah is exactly the kind of man he will target to deceive all of you. You can be deceived by satan to believe it's the eye of horus and stop listening to a Godly man, and God's word being preached each week.

You take hand gestures out of context and say they are from the occult as well.. Satan wants you to. Satan has set out to do exactly what he wanted with this entire page.

I'm praying for all of you that choose to believe any of these satanic conspiracy theories.

tom m. said...

to Anonymous (directly above)

you might want to take a look at this: Apostasy Gone Wild: Catholics, Jews, 'Christians', And
'Mormon' Glenn Beck - "Under God Indivisble" 7-27-12

Along with many other big names, Jeremiah was one of the main speakers at this very recent "unifaith" conference. Holding hands with deniers of the Lord Jesus Christ 2John 7-11. No way to spin it.

Rev. 18:4

harnessandleash said...

Since this blog is based on the meaning of a stained glass window in David Jerimiah's sanctuary at Shadow Mountain Church why not ask the question directly to the source? The following is a emaial response I received inquiring about the meaning of the window.

"The image you see behind Pastor Jeremiah’s pulpit is a stained glass art piece above the baptistry. It includes a large gold circle, with a red circle inside that with a cross and small red circle at the center of the cross. Just below the cross is an open Bible and the words just below that are: “The Entrance of thy words giveth light.” Psalm 119:130. We are attaching a picture of the stain glass to enable you to zoom in on a large shot of the piece.

The stained glass designer was brought in by the contractor building the sanctuary back around 1991. We are not aware of any specific significance. It seems to us that the message is to exhort us to stay in the Word of God, as that is the way to get the light of His presence and knowledge, and it’s especially highlighted by the backlighting behind the glass.

In His Service,

Barbara Boucher

Administrative Assistant to

Pastor David Jeremiah



There are plenty of "legitimate" false teachers out there for scrutinizing but David Jerimiah is NOT one of them. Let's call an ace an ace and a baptismal window a baptismal window ... and move on. We will all be asked, someday, to give an account for the harm we knowingly inflicted to "the cause of Christ." Yes, "test the spitits" by all means, but, be careful of which "spirit" you are of yourself. I'll be surprised if this post makes it on to your blog but if it does, praise God.


Anonymous said...

Dear Barbara,
Look, honestly, there is a lot of controversy over a piece of art by some stained glass designer that worked for a building contractor. Nearly all of us see the occultic eye and are shocked but your defend it. Why not ditch the thorn in your side? Yes, get rid of the glass art and hang up an old wooden cross like most churches have, or nothing at all? If the eye stays up, we continue to see the eye and questions remain. Also, what you described is weird, the themes in the art that is. The 3 circle deal and the really tiny cross is weird. Carl

harnessandleash said...

"And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people's faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them." Romans 16:17

So now the discussion turns to how big a cross should be in a church? And since when is art that depicts an open bible with a verse, that points out how God's word should be the light of our hearts, not appropriate? A little more time in God's word reading about "divisions among believers" would be well spent and less time trying to tarnish a Godly man's reputation (i.e. David Jeremiah). What's next, the color of carpet? Or how about the sermon that is preached from page 666 in the bible? There are so many "real" issues going on in the world today that need legitamate attention brought to them. Who needs the venum of unbelievers when there are believers doing their work for them? This blog is starting to smell suspiously like a dead fish. Oh wait, you know, if you look close enough, it may not be a fish after all -- I'm pretty sure I see a snake that evolved into a fish and has flopped it's way into the crowd of those who cause divisions in the church.

Signing off of this one ----

Anonymous said...

Well, I had a good look at a closeup of the window and saw this: Centerpoint of Eye is the red centerpoint of cross. The Red & Yellow Circles - the iris and pupil of the eye. Lightest part is in the center - An Illuminated Eye. The Red Circle around the 'cross' - The Ouroboros. Within the Fiery Red Circle the cross is equidistant from the center like the pagan Solar Cross, or Sun Wheel. The cross continues more obviously upward from there beyond the red circle making the image of an Inverted Cross.

From there, the cross extends beneath the Open Book 'Bible' and as a whole resembles a sword. An open (holy) book symbolizes deity in Masonry. The Sword symbolizes LIGHT fire, duality, and power. This would explain the use of the verse from Psalm 119:130a - "The entrance of thy words giveth light." In masonry and the occult, however, the light-giver is unfortunately Lucifer, not God.

Beyond the light colored center circle, the eye begins to take on the classic shape of an eye as a whole with an almond, or Mandorla, shape (the outline of the eye). The Mandorla has been used in both Christian and pagan iconography throughout history. The All-Seeing Eye is a symbol showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light and usually enclosed by a triangle.

In this stained-glass window, it is easy to see rays of light emanating from the top of the artwork and descending downward in a triangular fashion. The overall effect is that of an illuminated eye within a pyramid. This is the exact description of the All-Seeing Eye of Horus in Egyptian mythology. The Pyramid is an occult symbol of ultimate power. I would definitely question why such artwork is in a supposed Christian church.

tom m. said...

Seems that a closeup view of the Shadow Mountain stained glass window is in order here - so one has been posted. Also, the anonymous commenter directly above has provided some very interesting observations with regard to the window, and so the comment is posted too. Examine it for yourself if interested:

Shadow Mountain stained glass window closeup

Anonymous said...

I would like to say thag EVEN if it is a cross with a circle around it that it is not a christian cross because a cross with a circle around it is in reference to pagan cross symbols such as Horus, Osiris, Isis, Baal, etc. The circle around the cross signifies Sun worship, which is the same religion as the eye of Horus or Baal worship. All paintings with Jesus during the dark ages that had what we call a halo was not what we thought was a halo. It was the radiance of the sun around His head signifying sun worship and paralleling Christ to Horus and Tammuz, etc. We were taught it was a halo, but that was apart of the deception. Besides who made up the term "halo"? Its not Scriptural! You judge.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Masonry is christian? I hope not because it mkst certainly isn't. That being said if it is not christian then it is of this world and it is born if the devil if it is not born of God (Jesus). A demon is behind every idol, and every word I just spoke is the oracles of God. Now calm down and allow yourself to be taught the truth in love.

Anonymous said...

It's a shame people dont realize and refuse to educate themselves on the power of the subconscious. The all seeing eye is just that, spiritual warfare and it saddens me to see this at the DJ church. Bot because I thought he was a man of God and have been duped, but because I listened to his radio broadcast for years and do not know how much damage he may have been doing to those not yet with the spiritual protection. Im sorry, but it seems obvious that any church that has this amount of criticism on the stain glass image and does not remove it, or change it is not a church of God.

Anonymous said...

I have worked for Dr. Jeremiah and Turning Point for over 14-years, and I can tell you he is TRULY a man of God, and a dear, personal friend.

Other than that, no other response from me seems worth spending the time.

Blessings to all of you. I pray God will show you the truth.

Anonymous said...

i was flipping the channels and decided to put on tbn when i stumbled on this mass choir singing under the " all seeing" eye not knowing who or what i was watching. however i know for sure that is the " all seeing eye". im a christian and im not just a talker but a walker!! as christians its important for us to study and and be watchman....im blessed to be married to a pastor who teaches me daily. through our research and constant prayer we trust in our gift of discernment. its a shame so many of our misled brothers and sisters may not enter the Kingdom of God. we have to pray now more than ever. JESUS is coming real soon. freemasonary illuminati scientology mk ultra etc etc is real...but GOD is GREATER!! im changing channel better yet im going to pray that the scales be removed from the eyes of the deceived!!!

Anonymous said...

Nonsense. You know it's this kind of accusatory thinking that got Jesus harassed by the pharisee's. They accused Him of being a glutton for eating in the field on the Sabbath day. They accused Him of being demon ridden, of associating with "sinners" and even heresy. Jesus rebuked them all. There is no eye in that image, that is what YOUR evil eye sees. The light of the body is the eye but if the eye is evil, so is the whole body. Oh well now you're going to get upset because I said LIGHT? God IS Light, in Him there is no darkness. This is not sun worship, this is scripture. You see that eye because your eye is geared towards seeing evil. You study evil, all this mason and illuminati stuff as vigorously as you should be studying the bible. DONT. Study the bible but also practice it. Don't sit around looking for evil. "ewww Shadow Mountain is evil sounding..." you say? So now a shadow is evil? Shadow Mountain is the community in which that church is built. If you look, there are a lot of areas called Shadow Mountain here in San Diego. There are many beautiful grape vineyards planted in Shadow Mountain valleys. Isn't it written that whoever abides in the secret place of the most High will abide in His shadow? Or are you going to go ahead and call that scripture evil too? The bible says to test the spirit, not judge, and if you read the very next verse of your beloved 1John 4:1 you will see how to test the spirit. It does not say look at how he poses, or how he does his hands, or how an image when looking at it from afar looks like an evil idol. You are doing nothing for Christianity by going around accusing everyone like a devil of doing evil. Especially from someone you don't even know and is a pastor of God. All this meandering in evil and paranoia is only hurting YOU. It is slowly corrupting you more and more and I urge you to stop. I looked around at your other blogs and they are FILLED with all the same nonsense. It is NOT discernment you or any of the other accusers possess it is vanity. You claim to know and love God but you point your finger and accuse others made in the same image of God. Hypocrites. Remember, everything you write, say and do will be recorded and why not have a good record of good deeds instead of accusations and fear? I pray blessings of a soft heart and wisdom of love to shine on you all.

tom m. said...

re: "There is no eye in that image, that is what YOUR evil eye sees...or how an image when looking at it from afar looks like an evil idol"

To briefly respond, this link is reposted:

Shadow Mountain stained glass window closeup "In response to questions raised in the above post with regard to the Shadow Mountain stained glass window being an all-seeing-eye, there are some commenters who would refute what seems obvious to most. Basically all use the same defense which is to simply 'deny the eye'...

re: "NOT discernment you or any of the other accusers possess"

In response to that, see above comments dated 4-2-11 and 12-15-11 on Jeremiah's promotion of pseudo-christian new-agers, and usage of Message 'bible' (for just a few examples)

Additionally, here is another reposted link from a comment (7-30-12) - and you might want to take a look at the article:

Apostasy Gone Wild: Catholics, Jews, 'Christians', And 'Mormon' Glenn Beck - "Under God Indivisble" 7-27-12 "Along with many other big names, Jeremiah was one of the main speakers at this very recent "unifaith" conference. Holding hands with deniers of the Lord Jesus Christ 2John 7-11. No way to spin it."

1John 4 speaks of trying the spirits, for the very purpose of differentiating between the spirit of truth and the spirit of error [1 John 4:6]. It was out of love that John exhorted believers to do so. The things pointed out above, when 'tried', are found to belong to the 'spirit of error'. That is discernment, not accusing.

Rev. 18:4

Anonymous said...

My Mom told me I should check this great preacher out. When I clicked on the video I immediately saw the eye and thought this is great, the guy is talking about the dangers of occult symbols. Then I realized it wasn't a power point but an actual window and part of the church. Told Ma to stay away from this dude.

Wayne said...

I want to know if that ring David always has on his right hand is a ring of protection? He went through cancer and other health issues so who really knows if he is involved with secret society's...
I have attended this church for a few years. The (alledged) eye of Horus has always been a concern but I got the same reason from SMCC given here. In addition there are some things that bother me, mainly all the ecumenists, contemplatives, Emergents that David supports along with the constant promoting of his and other pastors book sales at the Church. I don't think Pastors should be "best selling authors" in my humble opinion. He has several sites where he really promotes himself and his books/cd's
Where he has written his own Bible called "The Jeremiah study Bible" along with a book called "the focused life" using 2 books from the Bible. I don't think someone should be making money off the Holy Bible. Jesus or his disciples Never did anything like this. Maybe I'm just over reacting.

t.c. said...

P.S. The pulpit has leaf branches with 7 sets of leaves. A very holy number to the Freemasons. Could be a coincidence but with a huge all seeing eye in the background I'm guessing it's on purpose.

Wow the Freemasons consider 7 a Holy number???! Where would they get that from...? That Pulpit was carved by one of the Missionaries as a Gift to Dr. Jeremiah. Yes I've never heard about 7 being a holy number (Sarcasm)
I also forgot to point out that in the middle of that "eye" is an open bible and a cross...
Just stating a fact.

tom m. said...

A lot going on with that 'cross' - see second quoted comment (in article) on eye-close-up page here

Wayne said...

I agree guys and Anonymous is absolutely right they should take it down. Not like they can't afford it. So David must want it there for a reason. Last year before Obama was elected David was boasting about raising 3.7 million for a new building and advertising money to vote for Romney (indirectly of course because of the tax status)LOL which was a surprise to me because I think Romney is a free mason and David should not have been supporting either one of those two for President.

Another thing that has always bothered my wife and I is that the name of Jesus is no where to be found in that room or any other and shadow mountain is a big place. But David has a good size room promoting all his books and cd's along with his own Bible. Thank you friends for your comments. Our family no longer attends SMCC.

SayWhat? said...

It is clearly an Eye of Horus. That's what I thought when I first saw it. It is subterfuge. Whoever designed the window was definitely a mason, imo. To continue to display it is either ignorance or defiance. They should cover it up, because they are causing people to stumble by continuing to display it. The fact that they refuse to cover it leads me to believe they are promoting the occult subliminally.

Anonymous said...

For those still not sure about Freemasonry good or evil should view "The Mother of All Secrets Mike Hoggard' on youtube. This is not conspiracy this is fact, the world is not ruled by language but by symbols and signs. Confucius knew this and said,"Signs and symbols rule the world, not rules or laws". Pray for wisdom which comes from the Almighty GOD. GOD word say to come out from them, we are sanctified (set apart). Watching for the true Christ Jesus not the first pretender.

Anonymous said...

I just saw the eye tonight for the first time while watching the programme. My first thought was, "Ehm, what is that thing that I am seeing." It went off the screen but I became alert n watched to see if I could see it again and when it appeared again, I looked and what I saw was an eye. The more I looked at it the clearer it became as an eye rather than anything else. I changed the channel immediately even though I like listening to David Jeremiah. I went online and typed up 'what is that eye in shadow mountain church' and that is when I stumbled across this site. Everyone knows the eye is occultic and therefore if they have nothing to do with the occult, they should take it down because it is causing an offence to genuine christians with discernment. 1Cor 10:32 says, "Do not cause anyone to stumble whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God ...

Anonymous said...

David Jeremiah fondly recalls his family giving him the Scofield's Commentary. I recall reading this as used by the 13 Satanic bloodlines. I sincerely hope Jeremiah is not part of this notorious group.

tom m. said...

The Scofield commentary has nothing to do with Jeremiah's 'eye of Horus' and 'emergent' and interfaith affiliations e.g. Glenn Beck conference

Anonymous said...

This is too creepy. I woke up this Sunday morning and had never seen. Dr. David Jeremiah before, but was flipping through the channels an stopped when I heard him speak a little. Within about 5 minutes I noticed the "all seeing eye" in the background and was like "huh!?" It's crazy how not only so many people are spreading that garbage including "preachers" but now people aren't even hiding it anymore like with his "all seeing eye" stained glassed window right behind him... That was the first and last time I'm watching his show.

Anonymous said...

Interestingly enough, my mother-in-law told me how great his Cds are. So I looked them up and was shocked by how expensive all of his products are. Made me suspicious but I put it at the back of my mind (even though you can RC Sproul's books free on Kindle.
Then I started listening to one of his "sermons" on youtube and was shocked to see the Illuminati eye of Horus above the choir.
This, coupled with the expensive prices of his products made me do a search. Lo and behold, here I am. These people who are defending him are grossly deceived, I am so sorry to say.
I wish it were not true, but all the evidence points toward the fact that he is a fraud and false prophet/pastor.

Jessica said...

My best friend asked me to watch DJ a year ago or so, and I would usually listen to his programs on the computer, not watching his shows. When I first saw DJ, I have to admit I felt something was out of place. Just like years ago when I first saw Jimmy Swaggart, I 'felt' something wasn't right. I have to share this or I'll burst!!

A little while ago I was listening to David's 'Angel' series and at one point he says, 'No offense Master satan, but that was a stupid thing to do' Why the heck is he calling satan master?? My best friend and my daughter listened to the program and totally missed it! Did anyone else catch that? It's wrong on soooo many levels! I did stop listening or watching his programs since then, just a few months ago. It actually led me to your post through my daughter who sent me your link. She and my best friend heard it and it just blows our minds! I will pray for David, but I will not listen to him anymore. We need to pray for those who still attend his church and those who listen to him for discernment.

tom m. said...


Thanks for passing that along - hopefully many will benefit from your 'bursting' out with this very revealing report.

Eph. 5:11 'And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them'

Anonymous said...

i live in San Diego and a buddy of mine lives up that dirt road after you pass that church ..And its Creepy ... The place is like a compund with sleeping quarters and everything .. That the New Jim Jones but only this time there staying hear.. By the way the egypten dident worship gods ..like you think like say the greeks the egypt more like tryed to trick the god in to doing there bidding. So if they were doing a egypt thing that would be a breath of fresh air. That here "Amen" came fron by the way The god Amun when combined with the sun god Ra became Amen-Ra the most power full god there was. If you want to peep the creepyness check out his web page and look at the :About" use page ..Them saelected quotes are end is comming propaganda

Anonymous said...

Look closely at the graphic of his opening show on T.V.
It's the graphic of an open bible. bible.
There is a Pyramid "hidden" in the bible graphic-picture.

tom m. said...

Anon (directly above),

This the one? - definitely a pyramid:


Unknown said...

I think people read way too much into symbols that may or may not appear in art. For example the swastika is an evil Hitler symbol, but it was also a symbol used by Indians meaning the 4 seasons far before Hitler. Seeking one meaning where none or several exists is futile. "Above all, be careful what you think because your thoughts control your life.-Proverbs 4:23 Is it possible that one seeking out evil symbols will see them wherever they look to justify the futility of their search? If you must judge the Dr, Judge him by the words that come from his mouth. "Proverbs 14:15 - Fools believe every word they hear, but wise people think carefully about everything."

tom m. said...


Don't know what version you took those two verses from but for the record here is what they really say:

Pr. 4:23 'Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life'

Pr. 14:15 'The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going'

Both of those verses, here in correct form, actually could be easily used to argue against what you are saying. For instance, only "the simple" would believe those who try to say that that is not an occult all-seeing-eye - as many commenters above have tried to do. The prudent man, who "keeps his heart with all diligence" will not allow himself to be "fooled" (your version) by such ridiculous assertions. How much more in-your-face does it need to be before you will accept the reality? As for what Jeremiah says or teaches, go through the comments above and find many mentions of Jeremiah's interfaith alliances and new age/contemplative leanings (e.g. here and here to save some time)

Rev. 18:4

kbnday said...

Many years ago I had just moved on from a church to join a new church planted by my former church. I did not leave for any reason other than I believed the Lord Jesus was guiding us in that direction. The Associate Pastor at the former church was being given his own pulpit in the next town over so we joined him. A couple years later local news reports came out that the Pastor from the former church (Charles Evans) was found to be frequenting topless bars, getting drunk and brandishing weapons during drug deals. We (former members of his church who had moved on to the new plant church, and the current members who were still there)did NOT want to believe the news reports. We believed the accused pastors word that a family was "out to get him" and the man in the news footage "was a look-alike" used to bring him down. The moral of this story is that it took years of healing to recover from the truth after he was arrested and spent many years in prison. We don't want to believe that we have been duped but Praise God the truth will be manifest.

Anonymous said...

The moral of this tragic story...never put your pastor on a pedestal. Keep your eyes on Jesus Christ. Hebrews 12:2, "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." Jesus Christ is the supreme example we are to follow.

Anonymous said...

Symbols in and of themselves do not have power. It is the motive and meaning which we ascribe to them that give them their significance. And if a symbol, no matter how innocuous it's origins, has come to represent occultic themes, it has no place in a house of worship of the true and living God.

Anonymous said...

The past 6 months, I have been looking into the Luciferian and Masonic symbols on the Christian networks, TBN and DAY STAR. These preachers are so convincing with their beliefs. I just don't understand why they hide it. Why don't they just come out and say what they believe? I am so confused about which preachers are true believers! This is all so sad.

Anonymous said...

We are to be very careful not to cause others to stumble. With any little effort or minor study, one can determine that an image or symbol that resembled the all seeing eye would be perhaps a poor choice to place behind a place where we hope people will look to only hear from one sharing a message led by the Holy Spirit. If it's 'just a window - just an art piece'. Then it should be no problem to take it down. If I was made aware that a sticker on my car had meanings I was unaware of and evil meanings at that, it would come off. I would be interested to see how Dr Jeremiah would talk about the image in a conversation. It baffles me. How could he not see this? Perhaps once he was made aware of the nature of the image, he would run into the auditorium with a sledge hammer and remove it? I think a reasonable, Christ centered discussion of the image should take place. I mean - it's just an art piece, right. Get a better one. I'm sure Shadow Mountain could afford it and who could argue with removing an image that even 'might' be one used by groups that have satanic ties. I think the response could expose him or otherwise redeem his position. C'mon man. C'mon. The EYE? Really? That's rookie stuff.

PC said...

That art work never going to go. The masonic art work on the dollar bill ever going to go?

Butterfly... said...

I have been listening to a lot of his preaching and believed he was very sound. I had even quoted him a few times in my Christian blog (trumpetcalls.blogspot.com). I was surprised when watching on a christian channel to see the sign in the background and thought it may just be me. Then one evening when watching a few years ago with my sister she noted the same thing. So i googled David Jeremiah and Masonic and came across this post. Yet in my mind I figured they must just be simply unaware as for me if i had not researched these types of matters I would normally not give them a second thought - how many of us live in ignorance and do things innocently (for eg wear fashionable symbols) without knowing the origins or true intent of symbols, activities etc? It was certainly and eye opener for me. Despite that I continued to listen to him as I found his preaching sound and had not come across any other reason to stop save for the window and no other evidence so I assumed him innocent of that. Fast forward a few years and this morning i get the daily devotion over email and please look below...

"Nothing Hidden

And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Hebrews 4:13

Recommended Reading: Psalm 33:13-22

The front (obverse) of the Great Seal of the United States appears in many settings associated with the president. The back (reverse) side was never made into a seal, but its design can be seen on the back of the United States one-dollar bill. A distinctive feature is the unfinished pyramid with an eye appearing in glory above the pyramid. Such an image of an eye has been used in history to represent God’s omnipotence and providence—the fact that He sees and watches over all things.

It is certainly a biblical image. The writer of 2 Chronicles 16:9 says “the eyes of the LORD” survey all the earth, while the psalmist says “the LORD looks from heaven [and] He sees all the sons of men” (Psalm 33:13-14). The writer to the Hebrews put it more dramatically: “And there is no creature hidden from His sight”—suggesting that mankind would prefer to hide some things from God. The writer also suggests that hiding is a bad idea since we “must give account” to Him who sees everything.

Today, consider the “everythings” of your life. Is there anything you hope God doesn’t see? Ask God for grace to live a life you will be glad for Him to see.

A man may hide God from himself, and yet he cannot hide himself from God.
William Secker

Read-Thru-the-Bible: Isaiah 50-52"

Dr Jeremiah certainly thinks it is biblical and I am not here to condemn him but it has led me to conclude that the symbol is deliberate! I am shocked and perplexed and even more curious about his end time preaching of late now. All i can say that i have observed lately is that deceit has increased in the world of late and Matthew 24 tells us to watch out so that we are not be deceived for many will come in His name and deceive many. Also that we are at risk of our love growing cold due to the increase in wickedness. Hang in there believers and get to know the bible for yourself and not simply by following great names out there. Only the Lord Jesus Christ can save you. Stand firm to the end and keep praying for Christians that you are aware of that seem to be toying with or falling away from the word. Stand firm till the end and you will be saved. Further for Christians that are dismissive about these matters firstly Hosea 4:6 (my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge) and secondly if something is of true value and of great worth to you would you play with it? By this I am referring to your salvation 1Cor10:23 everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial so why not concentrate on the things that please God rather than the things that are a "maybe"?

Restored Blogger said...

Here's a blog that when you type in the keyword Jeremiah, a whole slew of articles documenting questionable sermons and issues come up. http://davidjeremiahblasphemy.blogspot.com/2013/09/david-jeremiah-deals-with-devil.html

On another note, I also did a blog article repenting of following David Jeremiah, primarily having read several of his books I received from being one of his monthly donor partners! I have repented to God and must admit that I wasn't discerning his voice either. I thought his writing was outstanding as was the quality and production of his many books but he didn't touch my heart with his oratory teaching and that's a good thing. He seemed scripted and over produced. Then I read in his newsletter about former CEO's from Krogers and other companies being on his board that struck me as odd.

I noted his study Bible was a real flop though, poor quality printing and layout with too small a font to read the study notes. The paper was transparent see through to the back and non-competitive with far superior study bibles for less money on the market. I paid $75 for this hyped up study bible and couldn't use it and its been sitting on my shelf since. I pulled it out now and won't be keeping it either. I find it difficult throwing it away, any suggestion on what to do with it?

Here's a link to my recent blog article repenting. http://cherylkicksass.blogspot.com/2015/08/is-pastor-dr-david-jeremiah-secret.html

Restored Blogger said...

For anyone who wants to really understand what's all the hoopla and problems over Masons and their symboligy, you'll find a noteworthy video from 2012 (DVD on-line) entitled Know Your Enemy by The Fuel Project. This link provides the entire playlist of the series. There you can find a section on the Masons and their symbology in multiple parts as well. Best to watch the entire series for a deep understanding of the ancient mystery religion that came into the world through the fall of Adam and Eve under Satan's helm and where this is all leading in today's world from a Christian perspective.

Know Your Enemy Playlist on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDGl79x4Pc&list=PLCED9C361662866BD

tom m. said...

Cheryl M,

On the above two comments, two comments:

re: 'Jeremiah study' bible...any suggestion on what to do with it?

One scripture comes to mind immediately:

Acts 19:19 'Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver'

re: 'Fuel project'

Not having seen any of the videos, or knowing anything about the producers, the above endorsement is yours alone. Much of the 'mystery religion' strategy to deceive the world involves putting out misinformation and misdirection. The eschatology the 'Fuel Project' promotes may be completely false (anything not rapture, e.g. pre-wrath, dominionism, etc.). If so, all conclusions drawn will of necessity also be false, i.e. misdirection, misinfo.

As always, let the viewer discern.

Rev. 18:4

tom m. said...


Having just gone to the end of the 'Fuel project' videos and looking at a couple of them to get their "conclusions", without question it is misdirection and misinfo. They are promoting a 'coming kingdom' eschatology, which is a type of dominionism (Zionism). They quote Westcott-Hort pseudo bibles. And much more.

They are 100% pro-Zionist. No surprise on that one. That tells you everything you need to know.

The 'Fuel project' is to be warned against - Jer. 23:16

Unknown said...


I confirm that it IS occultic, I was there and saw it from inside.
Several images appear. 1. A mountain with a lit up eye, 2. The all seeing eye of horus, 3. a fish, 4. There is a cross inside... but it is upside down. It is carried diagonally, but upside down. It is right in the pupil of the eye (resulting in the 'X' symbol of antichrist) in the circle, the leg is extended beyond the pupil to the upper right, resulting in the upside down diagonal cross. It also shows the crosshairs symbol that is the usual 'target' sign.
Those who don't see all of this are blinded and don't see because they probably did fall under his spell. He is a wolf, and a first rate one at that. The evidence piles up volumes high and can be verified by anyone lead to do so. It was also revealed to me about him that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing and a luciferian before I had been there or even seen him other than one photo for the first time. I went once to investigate and found out yet more while there. There is a darkness about him, something sinister. We are told to discern the spirits. You can practically see the gleam in his fang and no I'm not being funny. Just one reason is enough, all the false teaching but also the use of the message bible. Obviously wolves don't teach pure lies, they mix lies in with truth... the more easily for you to digest the poison... my dear! Beware, watch, pray, read the word, and do the research.

brent said...

Witch hunters !!!!! All of you!
Its a collage. An eye, a fish, a bible, a cross, and a statement. Not the eye of horse. Maybe if most of you spend more time in prayer praying for our pastors and asking God to hedge them with protection you wouldnt want to assist the Devil would you? Maybe you would I'll as I know is Jesus says he doesn't want to lose anyone that belongs to him John 6:39

Restored Blogger said...

tom m: About your view of The Fuel Project's Know Your Enemy. a 10 hour DVD series on YouTube of which you viewed about two hours and commented here, I see it from a factual historical basis of their body of research, not a political one. I presented the link regarding Freemasonry because it's a topic in this article I'm commenting on. I didn't mean for you to take it under your study only to bash the tremendous body of research in the non-political, non-biased Fuel Project's work.

I'm not going to burn David Jeremiah's Biblical works as you recommend, the Holy Spirit hasn't directed me to do anything about it yet. So who are you "tom m"? I don't know you from Adam. I thought you wrote an interesting article but you're a nobody who I've never met. I don't go around trusting complete strangers and taking such crazy advice about burning Bibles.

tom m. said...

Cheryl M.

re: burning 'bible'

Nowhere was 'burning' the DJ bible "recommended". What was done was the quoting of a verse of scripture simply to illustrate the seriousness with which false doctrine is to be treated. Certainly do not want to give it away, taking it out of circulation is the best option. That was the meaning.

As for the Fuel Project", the comments above stand. The issues mentioned in my comments are not having to do with the historical basis of the 'Fuel Project' or of political questions i.e. Zionism. Zionism actually is both political and religious - and has profound biblical relevance prophetically. see: Zionism and the coming antichrist

And that is the point of my response after viewing the particular FP videos that would reveal their conclusions - to see exactly where they are going with it. And that did become clear. So regardless of the amount of work required to produce all the videos, if the end conclusion is 'false doctrine' - which it is - that cannot be overlooked.

Coming-kingdom dominionism (Zionism) - which the videos promote, and Westcott/Hort pseudo-bibles - which they quote, as mentioned in my comments above (to name just two things), are horrible deceptions. Granted many believe otherwise - which truth be told is a huge part of the reason for the thoroughly apostate condition of the outward professing 'Christian' church today 2015 - Laodicea.

Have to say it like this Cheryl M. - if my response to the Fuel Project is a 'burn job'...

well...the false doctrine the 'project' is based on is the fuel.

(Note: the "coming kingdom" will be that of the false christ - see link at end of 2nd paragraph)

'He that hath ears to hear, let him hear' Mt. 11:15

Rev. 18:4

Tina said...

Thank you!!!!!!

Unknown said...

Is it possible that what we are seeing is the EYE of GOD and not an evil eye ???
2 SAM 16:12 "Jehovah will behold with HIS EYE"
EZE 5:5 " the EYE of GOD is on the elders of the Jews"
JOB 28:10 " HIS EYE sees every precious thing"
EZRA 7:4,9 8:10 " MINE EYE shall not spare thee"
all of these scriptures speak of GOD's EYE
so maybe that is what you are seeing.????

Anonymous said...

If that is what the eye of god looks like, then we are all in big trouble, for NO ONE knows what the eye of our LORD looks like nor could be even imagine it. Frankly, I find the back drop equally disturbing with all of those contrasting pictures of a jesus figure behind what passes for preachers today on this pulpit. When my child asked me, "Is that what Jesus, my Savior looks like? As parents as well as children of our LORD, we respond with the words, "No, what you are seeing is a picture, a symbol, an icon, and an idol we are led to believe in. No one knows what Christ looks like after His death and resurrection because we don't have actual photographs of our LORD and King. We, as born again Christians are to walk by faith, not by sight."

When we, in our immature worldiness, try to imitate what God's Word has to say, we become a part of the growing apostasy.

Anonymous said...

Also Tom, I value your view of the Fuel Project videos. I watched the whole series carefully from beginning to end, twice, and you are correct in stating they promote pro-Zionism. Having come out of an abusive church system where the leadership condemns those of us who do not desire to follow their OT laws (a couple of examples: we are considered law breaking when we do not worship on the Hebrew Sabbath, we still under the law in that we do not eat shellfish or pork, we are required to eat sedar meals and celebrate Hannakkah, we are also encouraged to write down our prayer requests so when leadership travels over to Israel, they can place our scrolled pieces of paper in the temple walls and god will answer them because they believe that is the most holiest place on this earth), our faith in Jesus, our New Covenant can be quite confusing. Select OT "laws" are too be practiced while others are ignored so it gets to be a game of hypocrites as the vipers do their damage on the Body of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Reviewing the stained glass in a clear picture (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/justlois118/media/ShadowMontain4.gif.html) does not show an inverted cross as some are saying. The top of the cross and the sides clearly show white glass to separate it from the rest of the stained glass. Yes, you could see an eye in the stained glass but this does not mean it was created with intent to be the all seeing eye. Its a piece of art and stained glass in particular has abstract elements. I would be very careful in focusing too much on things like this...test what David Jeremiah preaches against scripture and decide if its good or not. Don't forget he's human just like the rest of us and may have personal beliefs that do not mirror your own and subject to scriptural interpretation. Remember, Satan seeks to divide and can easily use to distract and cause sinful behavior such as gossip and slander.

tom m. said...

Quoting Anon directly above -

re: "Yes, you could see an eye in the stained glass but this does not mean it was created with intent to be the all seeing eye. Its a piece of art..."

'Art' does not create itself. 'Artists' create it with an intent to convey a meaning. The all-seeing-eye can be no 'accident':

Closeup clear picture of eye-image examined closely: Follow Up: David Jeremiah - Shadow Mountain All-Seeing-Eye Closeup

re: Jeremiahs 'teaching', "gossip and slander"

see previous comment: link

Gal. 1:6

Unknown said...

"Jesus and Our Problems - Dr. David Jeremiah sermon 2015" was the first and last sermon on youtube that right away catches my eyes on such detail. thank you Lord for opening my eyes. and he totally misquoted the Gospel of John 6:26. Jesus meant to say that to expose their superficiality regarding their faith on Him. the sermon sounded like one of those prosperity gospels floating around devouring anyone with itchy ears.

Anonymous said...

I have read about 1/2 the comments so far. What strikes me more than anything is the number of posters willing to "assure" us all DJ is the real deal. To post that type of comment shows a complete lack of (a) wisdom and (b) critical thinking. Allow ME to assure YOU that no matter how many times you have shaken his hand/ broken bread/been to his house your assurances are worthless. As the other disciples had no idea which of THEM would betray Jesus so YOU have no idea who amongst us are false prophets.

Regarding an earlier post claiming the symbol is actually "the eye of God" we in fact can be almost certain this was not the intention. How? An even earlier post shows a reply to a congregation member concerned about the symbol and goes into some detail explaining what the image is. At no time does the DJ church mention an intention for the symbol to represent "the eye of God" which one would imagine would be your most important claim when defending the symbol to a concerned parishioner.

At the very least one should be more guarded in listening to his sermons than might otherwise have been the case.

Anonymous said...

Well I just took a close up look at the symbol and am fairly well convinced courtesy of some intel from another poster here.

The issue I had not detected previously and which is clear in the close up is that the cross at the centre of the artwork does not terminate as it extends to the roof at the red circle surrounding the cross. Instead the lateral arm of the cross extends upward well beyond the red circle (see orange section above and outside the red circle). As the previous poster noted this then forms an inverted cross. The inverted cross is a symbol of the darkest satanic ritual and of even greater concern than the eye of horus.

Frankly if DJ is "for real" then tear it down - its just that simple. Even if the whole window is unintentional (which is highly improbable) if someone shows a Christian they are displaying an inverted cross there is no excuse for not removing it.

I am Blessed said...

The stained glass behind the baptistry clearly depicts an open Bible beneath the cross of Christ. The cross is highlighted with a red band. The highpoint of this display are the words “The entrance of Thy Word gives light” (Psalm 119:130).

Did Dr Jeremiah build that church or did he only started preaching there as the Pastor?
The church I go to has a stained glass window that some of us including our present and a retired Pastor didn't approved off being there, but its still there. Now that make my Pastor a devil worshipper?....He preaches directly from the Holy Bible just as Dr Jeremiah does.

You sons and daughters of the devil should be listening to the Word of God being preached rather than looking around like the devil for souls. Dr Jeremiah preach for and in JESUS and NOT the devil as you ppl claimed.

tom m. said...

To above commenter:

'I am" is God's name

Exodus 3:14

John 8:58

Anonymous said...

it would appear that the evidence proves David Jeremiah has been led astray. Even Michael W Smith uses occult symbolism on his albums. the previous senior pastor, Lahaye is a known Mason. Even Billy Graham is a known Illuminati. I am greatly saddened to have realized that David has been led astray. I have been listening, learning and growing for 3+ years. Seek and you shall find.

I am Blessed said...

To Tom m: Read Hebrew chapter 1 and the book of John chapter 1 (to start).

What are you trying to say ...Jesus is not God!

Jesus is God! you preach Jesus you preach God!

Hebrews 1:8-10 (God’s Supreme Revelation) God call His Son God!!!
But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” And:“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

(John 8:56–59; Exodus 3:14)

He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father?' Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?

“I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14.

If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham’s time, He would have said, “Before Abraham, I was.” “was,” in the case of Abraham, and “am,” in the case of Jesus, are quite different. The words chosen by the Spirit make it clear that Abraham was “brought into being,” but Jesus existed eternally (see John 1:1). There is no doubt that the Jews understood what He was saying because they took up stones to kill Him for making Himself equal with God (John 5:18). Such a statement, if not true, was blasphemy and the punishment prescribed by the Mosaic Law was death (Leviticus 24:11–14). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.

Jesus used the same phrase “I AM” in seven declarations about Himself. In all seven, He combines I AM with tremendous metaphors which express His saving relationship toward the world. All appear in the book of John. They are I AM the Bread of Life (John 6:35, 41, 48, 51); I AM the Light of the World (John 8:12); I AM the Door of the Sheep (John 10:7, 9); I AM the Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14); I AM the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25); I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6); and I AM the True Vine (John 15:1, 5).

We already know who God is....Jesus taught us to pray..."our Father"...meaning God/ I AM.

Show me in the Bible (KJV) where it says Jesus is not God...or where Jesus says that He is not God...or where God Himself says His Son Jesus is not God!

Many have try to tell me that Jesus is not God, but they have nothing to back it up! False Doctrine will not do!

I'll not waste my time to respond to anything negative about who Jesus is... Everything I need to know its in the Holy Bible (KJV)....The Eternal Word...John 1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.".....God said it....men wrote it....I believe it....that settles it!

tom m. said...

to above commenter:

First, this is not a personal attack. Your first comment could not be any more false though. For one, calling those who rightly identify satanic symbolism for exactly what it is ... "You sons and daughters of the devil"

...makes plainly evident that you do not know at all what you are talking about.

Second, my response to your first comment, in quoting the two scriptures, in no way can be construed as me saying that Jesus is not God. You have missed the point entirely.

The point was/is that it is you using Jesus/God's name in naming yourself "I am Blessed" (note capital 'B')

Again, not a personal attack here, but if you can receive it, naming yourself "I am" and then naming others who show discernment "sons and daughters of the devil", is not 'of God'.

I am Blessed said...

Tom m.
I know that you are NOT the only one who would read my posts and said negative and accused Dr. David Jeremiah of be satanic… so that’s why I used the "You sons and daughters of the devil" …..who dis God’s word when preached by a servant of God!

Rumors abound and they are not from above. Opposition is when people attack our purpose, which, in essence, is attacking God. That’s why Jesus promised us that persecution would be part of building God’s kingdom: “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you” (Matthew 5:10-12)….”Blessed; Blessed; Blessed!!

Tom in your entire life you never use "I am" when referring to yourself? Never?

“Blessed” is he who comes in the name of the LORD ...: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD. Psalm 118:26

“I am Blessed” does NOT mean its God’s name whether “B” or “b”. Where in the Bible says “Blessed is one of God’s name? Do you even know what Blessed in the Bible means??

The word “Blessed” Jesus used in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:1-12)
is from the Greek word makarios, which means to be happy or blissful, but it also means a self-contained happiness.

“Blessed” is a Christian word. It is a spiritual word. It is a biblical word.
We can be genuinely Blessed as followers of Jesus Christ.
So “I am Blessed” God chose me to follow Him!!

Psalm 1:1 carries that theme further when it states,

“Blessed” is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.”

“And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.” Luke 1:41-42

NOTE: capital (B) “Blessed” among women and (common or lower case ‘b’) “blessed” is the fruit (Jesus). A righteous woman is referred as ““Blessed” whereas the Son of God is “blessed”
NOTE: capital (B) and common or lower case (‘b’) who it was referred too!

Stop trying to correct people when you clearly DO NOT understand the Bible!!

“And he preached in their “synagogues” throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils.” Mark 1:39
So what better place to preach God’s word than a place said to be satan’s with glass stain window pic.

I am Blessed said...

Tom m.


“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15

You along with others quote Bible verses out of context……not even knowing what God is saying.

The 'church' is often referred to as 'sheep' and 'Jesus' is the Great 'Shepherd'... he said “ Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing…..”
Jesus says there is “….one flock [and] one shepherd” (John 10:16) and Jesus is the True Shepherd. Dr. David Jeremiah is an under-shepherd (servant) to the Great Shepherd. He NEVER claims to be the Shepherd/ God or Jesus (all one…GOD)!!!...just a servant of God like all who believe and serve God.

I’ll always remember that I am Blessed when people oppose me because of my love for and obedience to God. My enemy never opposes that which he does not fear. Why did Satan attack Jesus in the wilderness? He feared Him!!

Jesus used a phrase, “Do business till I come” (Luke 19:12-13). I’ll raise His flag and tell others the Good News. I am not willing that any should perish.

“Delivering the Unchanging Word of God to an ever-changing world”

“And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight” (Colossians 1:21-22).

(Dr. David Jeremiah) “He clearly and plainly declares the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to heaven. He preaches the blood of Jesus. He preaches hell hot and heaven sure to all who repent of their sins and place faith in Christ. That is not what Satan wants his ministers preaching!!! It is so sad that other "Christians" attack a man who is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE my friend and ask if Satan would approve.”

tom m. said...

In regard to the two comments directly above a few things in the way of a general response:

re: "I am"

First note that it is the church of Laodicea that says 'I am' - Rev. 3:17

On that, ear-itcher Joel Osteen recently put out a new book of unsound doctrine [2Tim. 4:3] called "The Power of I Am":

"Can two words give you the power to change your life? Yes they can! In the pages of his new book, bestselling author Joel Osteen shares a profound principle based on a simple truth.

Whatever follows the words "I am" will always come looking for you.

So, when you go through the day saying:
"I am blessed"...blessings pursue you.
"I am talented"...talent follows you.
"I am healthy"...health heads your way.
"I am strong"...strength tracks you down.

Joel Osteen reveals how THE POWER OF I AM can help you discover your unique abilities and advantages to lead a more productive and happier life...You can choose to rise to a new level and invite God's goodness by focusing on these two words: I AM! [source Amazon]

Without going into it here - this is dangerous anti-christianity. It is new-age witchcraft. Essentially it is the widely known man-exalting book 'The Secret' repackaged to be sold to the church. Osteen is the salesman, new-age-queen Oprah is partnered with Osteen and is promoting it heavily also. To any who are so inclined a search will turn up much on the topic. Search Youtube also, many O and O 'I am' videos - one short video with Osteen and Oprah "I am"-ing it up is here: Youtube

Needless to say, the book is not recommended. It is to be warned against.

Next thing, leaving aside for the moment the infamous satanic eye-of-horus symbol behind the pulpit which many try to deny or excuse away, is the subject of Jeremiah's 'message'. Is it sound as some claim? Saying a thing is so does not make it so - no matter how loud or long the thing is claimed. As mentioned many times in the comments above there are definite problems with the Jeremiah 'message'. Frequent quoting of and promoting teachings of new agers, frequent use of perverted 'message bible' for example; see: link; another huge problem would be interfaith alliances like this Glen Beck conference - Taken all together the Jeremiah "MESSAGE" (quoting above comment) is an impure mixture. An impure mixture is another gospel and another spirit - 2Cor. 11:4

"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit" (Matthew 7:18)

For those who refuse to see, or cannot see these things, which are actually very plain to see - well - there is a reason that the church of Laodicea is counseled to get some eye salve - Rev. 3:18. For these, to follow that counsel would be wise.

Rev. 18:4

Anonymous said...

There are plenty of "legitimate" false teachers out there for scrutinizing but David Jerimiah is NOT one of them. Let's call an ace an ace and a baptismal window a baptismal window ... and move on. We will all be asked, someday, to give an account for the harm we knowingly inflicted to "the cause of Christ." Yes, "test the spirits" by all means, but, be careful of which "spirit" you are of yourself. Praise God.
"And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people's faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them." Romans 16:17

And since when is art that depicts an open bible with a verse, that points out how God's word should be the light of our hearts, not appropriate? A little more time in God's word reading about "divisions among believers" would be well spent and less time trying to tarnish a Godly man's reputation (i.e. David Jeremiah). What's next, the color of carpet? Or how about the sermon that is preached from page 666 in the bible? There are so many "real" issues going on in the world today that need legitimate attention brought to them. Who needs the venom of unbelievers when there are believers doing their work for them? This blog is starting to smell suspiciously like a dead fish. Oh wait, you know, if you look close enough, it may not be a fish after all -- I'm pretty sure I see a snake that evolved into a fish and has flopped its way into the crowd of those who cause divisions in the church.
No other response from me seems worth spending the time.
Blessings to all of you. I pray God will show you the truth.

tom m. said...

in response to anon directly above...

re: "plenty of "legitimate" false teachers out there for scrutinizing but David Jerimiah is NOT one of them"

"Jeremiah not one of them"? He clearly was six months ago (September 2015) at this little ceremony to 'anoint' Donald Trump with the laying-on of hands and 'prayer'

Jeremiah, Kenneth Copeland, Paula White (among others), and "Jewish-Jesus" promoter 'Rabbi Schneider' who gives a Jewish 'Abrahamic blessing':


Note the Jewish rabbi prays in 'Yeshua's name" [2:20] and they all say "yes yes". The name 'Yeshua' is derived from the Jewish Talmud and is not another name for the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ but is a judaized-denial of the name of Jesus Christ.

The above is what is known as another gospel, another spirit

original video link: here

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues"

brent said...

Witch hunters!!!!! All of you!!
Its a collage. An eye, a fish, a bible, a cross, and a statement. Not the eye of horse. Maybe if most of you spend more time in prayer praying for our pastors and asking God to hedge them with protection you wouldn’t want to assist the Devil would you? Maybe you would. All I know is Jesus says he doesn't want to lose anyone that belongs to him John 6:39 “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.”

Anonymous said...

In response to brent .

Consider the following:

Shadow Mountain's ; pennant atop the obelisk , 3 of Cheops' pyramids ( the three dimensional suggestion is there ) , Masonic Apron , Hiram's Key


"Monday, April 1, 2013
David Jeremiah and his en"egg"matic eye of Horus
So mote it be . There is a mote in David Jeremiah's eye he happily retains , while he promotes
Talmudic Masonry via colorful symbolism gleaming through Shadow Mountain's eye of Horus .

Double mindedness was an early Egyptian affliction , as it remains to be with its Masonic offspring today . They even called themselves Oddfellows .The older Egyptian Horus , the Sun-god , ( Masonry's god ) , was the idea of the world remaining in the demiurgic mind , born in Darkness before the creation of the world ; the second Horus was the same idea going forth from the Logos , ( Harry Anderson's false Prince of Peace knocking at the U.N. door ) , being clothed with matter and assuming an actual existence , supposedly stopping chaos altogether . “ ….continued at the below link.

Thank you Tom for exposing the darkness.


tom m. said...

A note to those persons, or person, as the case may be, that feels the need to repeatedly restate their views, it is unnecessary - which is why those continuations are not posted. You have had your say. This is not a platform for arguing your viewpoints or beliefs on and on. Any who read your comments, and the blog-response, can determine for them self what they think.

(and no, the comment "to Brent" was not written by me)

Rev. 18:4

Unknown said...

Yes I want to know this also, does Jerimiah ever say why this would be at the head if his congregation

tom m. said...

to Tj (above)

For the answer to your question see this comment:  here

Opened Eyes said...

I am very grateful for this site. It oftentimes is a very lonely place to be when your eyes have been opened to the truth, but everyone around you is still blind and thinks you're 'seeing into things too much'. I thank God for you and your work. Keep it up!

Opened Eyes said...

I saw this window for the first time tonight, and I immediately Googled Dr. David Jeremiah and the all seeing eye stained glass window. Thank God, your website popped up. It is such a relief to see that others are aware of this deception. Sometimes I feel so very, very alone in this knowledge. Thank you for your work.

If anyone has any doubt about the truth , ask the Lord to show you in scripture, He is faithful to show those who seek Him and His truth.
God Bless you all.

Anonymous said...

I found this because I have been in a 10 part Bible study at my church ("Is This the End?") and have grown increasingly troubled by DJ's message and other elements that are present in the videos. First, it is filmed in NYC Lincoln Center (no doubt the cost of this was staggering) with a view of the city out the window- statues on pillars are in the background behind him. One is Christopher Columbus standing on a column and the other is some gilded icon. He is wearing a black faceted ring on his right hand which I have noticed flashing because of the way he moves his hands, like Masonic hand gestures. The message is strongly ecumenical, and pro-Zionist- in fact the 7th video in the series is basically a travel promotion for Israel, in between praising her military and economic prowess as evidence of God's covenant with Abraham. My husband and I have become uncomfortable with the study and are dreading tonight where we have to go through the "workbook" of leading rhetorical questions. Our church is evangelical and discussing the possibility that DJ may not be who/what he seems is going to create a rift for us. I am looking for confirmation of our suspicions. Thanks for this blog, I had no idea about the eye since we do not own a tv.

tom m. said...

Anon (directly above)

Your suspicions are well founded. Discernment is what it really is. As for 'rifts' that of course is not anything anybody looks forward to, but often that is the only option. For such a time as this. The situation is certain to be difficult because not all have 'discernment' - fact is it seems that very few do. Regardless of how plain a thing may be, they just can not see it. The result is more often than not a stand-alone-moment.

On a side note, churches that have turned to 'workbook' studies - e.g. Blackaby, Warren, Beth Moore, Jeremiah, etc. - rather than just holding fast to the Bible alone [Titus 1:9] have already gone off course. Doing whatever might have to be done to stay 'on course' is something to prayerfully consider. Praise the LORD.

Rev. 18:4


Best answer I've seen to respond to the work of little demons writing these lies "Worrying about a stained glass window and accusing David Jeremiah of being something other than a God called man to exalt Jesus and God's Word is the work of the devil. It is Satan who is the "accuser of the brethren" so everyone of you who are attacking him and not taking into account the message that he preaches are simply "accusers" and that's the real work of the devil. shame, shame, shame on you, and you will answer to the Lord Jesus Christ for every idle word you speak.

Unknown said...

As for "all the images in the building," why would a local church have ANY images in the house of worship? You don't need it, and if an unsaved visitor sees what certainly looks like an all seeing eye, what should their take on it be? Are we not to "abstain from ANYTHING" that can be a hindrance? And before you respond about what the image is or is not, it only matters what the visitor sees. We don't demand our rights, and especially not for the sake of keeping a potentially harmful image in your house of worship.

And the last time I checked, the Word tells us to "test" all "spirits" that say they are from God. You most certainly should test every word from David Jeremiah and if any are wrong, then you have an issue. I don't mean a one time mistake on scripture (like quoting the wrong verse, or accrediting a verse to the wrong book). No one should EVER be deemed beyond scrutiny.

And for the record, there is no "doctrine of rapture." There is no such thing as a "rapture." There is, however, in 1 Corinthians 15:52 where Paul describes the being "caught up" as happening at the very last trumpet, the trumpet that announces the arrival of Christ. 2 Thessalonians 2 also shows that Paul made it clear that Christ doesn't return until AFTER the abomination of desolation stands up and declares...There is no pre or mid anything, sorry you were taught that way.

tom m. said...

a brief reponse to Unknown (directly above) on one point,

re: "for the record...no such thing as a 'rapture'"

...for the record, your 'no-rapture record' is a broken record.

(for the record: 1Cor 15:52 "the last trump" is the same event as 1Thes. 4:16 - it is the "trump of God". Only two uses in entire bible of the word 'trump'. The 'trumpets' of Revelation are sounded by angels - Rev. 8:2; this is an important distinction)

To say the 'rapture' is false is to say that the return of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ can not be imminent. Essentially to say this is to say "my lord delayeth his coming" (...until after the abomination, or it is only "pre-wrath" etc. whatever - but absolutely not pre-trib [you sound like pre-wrath - which is the epitome of being 'wrongly taught']

"my lord delayeth"...well there is an interesting prophetic passage that speaks to this non-imminency position - it is Matthew 24:48-49. It identifies the sayer of this as "the evil servant" (who eats and drinks with the drunken - see: Rev. 17:1-2 ['her' being the spirit of Antichrist - which manifests itself in every false religion including apostate christianity - and makes them all 'drunk']).

Many versions of eschatology, only one can be correct. To say the rapture is not pre-trib (which, according to scripture, is the only possibility btw), that the return of Christ Jesus for his bride is not/cannot be imminent...might want to double-check what is in that cup you are drinking from if that is you.

Don't want to be evil...

Phil 3:20

John Eric said...

If this man is against Christ, he is the worst at tearing Him down I've ever seen! Even to the point of preaching messages saving souls into the kingdom, mine included!

John Eric said...

Amen! I sincerely hope no one has lost faith over this since its posting... understanding that this preacher is most definitely a man of God preaching Christ and if you study how long ago this building was constructed and the innocence of this particular window by an artist who had no idea of any "eye of Horus", you'd dismiss this writer of the blog as a well-meaning but very wrong, perhaps paranoid man who never saw enough of this pastor's teachings to realize he himself has become the deterrent to the true message of Christ he reviles here. Go back gentle believer, and catch up on the soul winning messages you've missed these 10 years by this man of God. This blog's author is simply wrong on this one. May God help his soul.

Unknown said...

There is no doubt that the window described is symbolic of the all seeing eye. Those who chose this design did so with awareness, or ignorance, either of which when advised of the similarities should have been horrified by the likeness and changed it. The fact that they didnt indicates a nonchalant attitude and a disrespect for Gods house.

Anonymous said...

Lutz Haufschild is the artist who did the stained glass rendering and he is well known for doing a lot of church stained glass windows. He is German and I don't think he is a born again glass artist. I have seen his work in other churches and practically rubbed shoulders with him in a business. Apparently David Jeremiah doesn't think it is the all-seeing eye because I talked to him or someone else on his fb page and they emphatically denied that is what it is. I, on the other hand, tend to agree with you that this is an all-seeing eye symbol (and there are others) and that at the ignorance of David Jeremiah it was put up in the window. Maybe someone else on the staff of the building committee of the church knew what it was but kept silent. Who knows?

Bethany said...

This is quite interesting and worth reading. I certainly never gave any thought to this embossment until now. This is something worth bringing to The Lord and asking for Discernment, Insight, and Wisdom...


Bethany said...

How many of us have ever actually paused and noticed the Seal of The United States? This is a very important Read and is something that we need to individually bring before The Lord and asking for Discernment, Guidance, Insight, and Wisdom from The Holy Spirit regarding:

It will not allow me to insert the hyperlink, but look up The Eye of God, The Eye of Providence, and The Seal of The United States.

May our God Bless you & Keep you.

tom m. said...

response to Bethany (just above)

One problem is that Wiki does not always tell the truth. The "eye of God/providence" has always been the 'official story' on this subject - but the fact is that a closer inspection reveals an altogether different reality - see [from this blog]:

Real meaning of "the eye" - US dollar

Bethany said...

Reply to Tom,

This is exactly my concern — well close to it. I am actually startled, as I for one, never gave this a second thought; but then, I seldom carry cash — haven’t for some time. Regardless of the source or history of the “Eye”, the pyramid beneath it says it all. This is really disturbing, and I honestly don’t know what we are meant to do with this knowledge. I have to admit that I started following David Jeremiah a couple of years ago — not on a regular basis, but definitely very much so over the last few months as he seems to be an outspoken authority on The End Times. His messages have been quite Sound from those that I’ve listened to, and his commentaries on these last days have provided a lot of insight that resonates with me as I attempt to be discerning when listening to any message — now, more than ever before. Honestly? I am struggling with just how to reconcile what I have read here with the messages I’ve listened to from him.

By the way, my apologies to the OP as I must admit I had not read your article in its entirety prior to my first reply above. And, I apologize for the repeat posting above as the first it appeared to not have posted initially

tom m. said...

Bethany (directly above),

Tom M. here - writer (OP) of this blog/article...

re: reconciling new info w/regard to Jeremiah

If you have not already done so it may be worth the time it takes (for starters) to carefully scan down through all the above comments. There are some revealing things here and there all the way down...


John said...

I can't imagine Tom (or the other commenters who are falling for this) being more damaging to ACTUAL "conspiricy therories" that are indeed true, than this obviously false one about Pastor Jerimiah. It's simply false. "You'll know them by their fruits" the Word says. Not by their stained glass windows. And certainly not by the hair-brained rantings of the paranoid.

tom m. said...

Reply to John (directly above)

John 10:4-5

DJ preaches out of false bibles. Truth does not come from false.

Example: flipping channels the other day there was DJ quoting this scripture - which was displayed on the screen - supposed to be Luke 19:10 - but it said this:

'For the Son of man has come to seek and to save that which was lost'

See the problem? - says "has". Past tense. That is false doctrine. The true statement is this:

'For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost' [Luke 19:10]

..."is" - present tense (always), not "has" - past tense ...oh sorry you missed out.

No big deal you say... wrong - it is a very big deal. It is a false gospel. Doesn't matter if it comes from "an angel from heaven". Surely you know what the bible says about that don't you - Gal. 1:8-9

And with the TV show worldwide how many people suppose ye be deceived - never even noticing the false scripture/s - about 99.99999999999 perhaps

Rev. 18:4

John Eric said...

Tom, you should be ashamed of yourself. Whatever damage you have done-- whether to the character of this fine preacher of God or discouraging someone from believing the gospel because you choose to confuse over a piece of stained glass-- you will be held accountable for on judgment day. RIDICULOUS!! Anyone listening to this preacher can tell he shares the true gospel, and does so effectively, while YOU (Tom) do no such thing while criticizing.

tom m. said...

to John E. (directly above)

There is no confusion:

regarding the "piece of glass" in question

- plain as day it is an "eye of Horus" - no way around the fact

..nor the masonic hand signs

nor the regular use of corrupt Westcott/Hort pseudo-bibles ...even at times the new-age one "the message"

or his many associations with known emergent, word/faith, etc. false teachers

and more... (read thru above comments -- notice you have commented previously also)

Anonymous said...

Did he? Did John comment previously? More than once? More than you, who misspells all the same words, and use the same atypical abbreviations as many of the above "anonymous" do? And "unknown"? And a half dozen other aliases and a few funny named folks who conveniently respond just after anyone making a solid point? Saying things like "Thank God for you showing me the light", etc. Seriously? I too apologize for engaging more than once in this obvious lunacy, as you might actually be only lunatic carrying on most of this 12 year back and forth. Just you, a sane person, you again (as "eyes opened" or whomever) with yada yada blah blah etc etc. I mean, you might have been in your 50s when you started this thread, now perhaps over 70, lol. And still-- Jesus is so foreign to YOU, that you don't even hear Him telling you (as He would a true servant) that Pastor Jeremiah is one of his own. His annointed, whom He said to NOT speak against. I tell you now, I am well- versed in the conspiracy theories to which you point all this, and there are plenty of places this stuff is truly embedded, but this preacher, you simply got wrong. Even poor Betty (or whatever her name is) a few years back, lol, the secretary there, took time out to address this foul-intentioned mess you made. Is she in on it too? I guess I'm just glad our Lord allows for the afflicted who "know not what they do".. But, if you ARE sane, yet doing this tearing down of a man preaching THE gospel most all his life... you'll be held accountable.

tom m. said...

..if i said it my name is on it

Anonymous said...

Your name may be on whatever you said here, but I pray it won't be missing from the "Lamb's book of life". I honestly fear for your soul, whether right or wrong about all of your allegations. Does the fact that this man, despite your stained glass window paranoia, preaches the gospel? ...The truth of Christ's saving grace. Does that play any part at all in your thought process? Have you even listened to Dr. Jeremiah's messages at all, or does your fascination with that window preclude you from any deeper investigation? I think the reason you get a few "repeats" from those who've replied previously, is that we receive an email (unless we specifically opt out) each time there is a response, thereby keeping this post "alive" for (it looks like) almost 12 years. In that time, I have paid special attention to hand gestures, etc., and found anyone speaking publicly could have a moment "frozen", and come off appearing to make such gestures. I dare say the author of this accusatory thread from its inception could be shown to make one of these gestures if recorded for an hour or thousand. It's rubbish. It really is. There's nothing in the Word supporting what you've done here, but there's plenty about those Pharacees accusing Christ himself of doing Satan's work, and of those who sow "discord among the brethren". One of those falls into a category called "the unpardonable sin"... Accusing the Holy Spirit of the devil's work or vice-versa. This is too close to that for my tastes. I trust your intent isn't that, but you certainly spent a lot of time and words on something you may be wrong about, in which case- I wouldn't want to be you on judgment day. If you're sincere-- share the gospel, not the gossip.

tom m. said...

Deuteronomy 16:22 'Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth'

Anonymous said...

This morning at 5 am, like I always do, turn on the tv to watch morning worship, as I get ready for work. Of course as I was sitting down on the couch with coffee in one hand and my Bible in the other, I noticed the stain glass had an all seeing eye.

I immediately thought I might have been imagining what I was seeing, because I haven’t ever really payed close attention to the stain glass before. I began to feel like something was off, so I started using my laptop and found this page.

So I thank you for writing this article, and feel something is awakening the Christians to see the truth. I’m grateful for finding your post.

Anonymous said...

Ugh. Did you read that Bible you had in your hand to match up with the words of this lifelong servant of Christ, as you sit there in your chair NOT being such? Because this ditz of a man, Tom and this supposed seeing eye that was created in a workshop by some poor artist that wasn't aware of such paranoia and this beloved preacher deserve better than this stupidity.

tom m. said...

In response to Anon (directly above)

To 'deny-the-eye' is not a valid defense. The "supposed seeing eye..created..by some poor artist" - as you call it, actually has been done with very purposeful design that is 'undeniable'. This fact was the topic of this post:

Jeremiah all-seeing-eye closeup

lila said...

I was having trouble understanding what Anon on June 19, 2022 is communicating in their comment above. For me, when I give the proper amount of time, to study of God's word and letting His Spirit be my teacher; I trust God to give me a sound mind. I can either accept the things He allows me to learn, or I can ignore them. The phrase in the above comment (lifelong servant of Christ) sounded foreign to me. And then I remember Luke 1:41 And it came to pass when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in the womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: That sounds like a lifelong servant to Christ to me; is that not awesome, (from the womb). That was none other than John the Baptist! But for the life of me I cannot think of anyone else that qualifies as a lifelong servant of Christ, but John the Baptist (from the womb and the rest of his life, to his death as a true witness of Christ.

tom m. said...

In response to Lila (directly above)

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