If a person ascribes to a belief system that is not according to the doctrines of the New Testament as found in the Holy Bible, is that person then a Christian? Can the teachings of Catholicism stand the test of scripture? Let whomsoever will answer these questions each for them self, according to the command found in 2Cor. 13:5 'Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves...'
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Excerpted from the 7th chapter [link] of the very well known book "Roman Catholicism" by Lorraine Boettner; 1962 [pdf].
Concerning these two topics:
THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION: "Many Protestants misunderstand this doctrine and assume that it relates to the virgin birth of Christ. It relates, however, to Mary’s own birth, and has therefore no direct reference to the virgin birth of Christ..."
THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: "...on November 1, 1950, with the ex cathedra pronouncement by pope Pius XII that Mary’s body was raised from the grave shortly after she died, that her body and soul were reunited, and that she was taken up and enthroned as Queen of Heaven...Thus Mary’s body was miraculously preserved from corruption, and her resurrection and ascension are made to parallel Christ’s resurrection and ascension. And she, like Him, is said to be enthroned in heaven where she makes intercession for the millions of people throughout the world who seek her assistance...."
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From: Chapter 7 Mary
The Roman Catholic Church officially denies worshiping Mary. Officially she says that Mary is only a creature, highly exalted, but still a creature, in no way equal to God. Yet she tells us that Mary hears the prayers of millions and that she constantly gives attention to her followers throughout the world. It may well be that, as Rome says, she does not intend idolatry. But the intention and the practical working out of the system are two different things. We must insist that it is worship, and that therefore it is idolatry as practised by millions of people who kneel before Mary’s statues and pray and sing to her. Most of these people know nothing at all of the technical distinctions made by their theologians between adoration and worship. It certainly is idolatrous to give her the attributes of omnipresence and omniscience and to give her titles and functions which belong to God, as when, by pope Pius XII, she was officially designated the ‘Queen of Heaven,’ and ‘Queen of the World,’ and when prayers are made to her for salvation.
We have mentioned the most famous of the prayers addressed to Mary, the Ave Maria, or Hail Mary. As commonly used, this prayer follows the Lord’s prayer and is offered in precisely the same way. Assuming that there are one hundred million ‘practising’ Roman Catholics throughout the world [1962], and that half of them say the rosary at least once each day—the rosary contains fifty ‘Hail Marys’ and takes quite some time to repeat—Mary would have to have the attributes of deity to hear and answer such a mass of prayer. Surely Roman Catholics themselves can see the impossibility of all those prayers being heard and answered by one who by the admission of their own church is not God, but only human. The whole thing is a deceit and an illusion. Even if it were true that the spirits of the departed have access to this world, that could not be known except by divine revelation. And no such revelation exists.
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14. THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION
The doctrine of the ‘Immaculate Conception’ teaches that Mary herself was born without sin, that from the very first moment of her existence she was free from the taint of original sin [1]. It holds that while all the rest of mankind are born into an inheritance of original sin, Mary alone, by a special miracle of God, was excepted. The original decree setting forth this doctrine was issued by pope Pius IX, on December 8, 1854, and reads as follows:
‘We declare, pronounce and define that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, at the first instant of her conception was preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin, by the singular grace and privilege of the Omnipotent God, in virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of mankind, and that this doctrine was revealed by God, and therefore must be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful’ (From the papal bull, Ineffabilus Deus, quoted in The Tablet, December 12, 1953).
Many Protestants misunderstand this doctrine and assume that it relates to the virgin birth of Christ. It relates, however, to Mary’s own birth, and has therefore no direct reference to the virgin birth of Christ.
Side by side with the doctrine that Mary was born without sin, there developed the doctrine that she did not commit sin at any time during her life. Then, as one link reached out for another, they gave her the attribute of impeccability, which means that she could not sin, that her nature was such that it was impossible for her to sin! All of this was a natural outgrowth of their worship of Mary, a further step in her deification. Their Mariolatry demanded it! They sensed that if they were to give her the worship that is due to our Lord, she must be sinless...
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Excerpted from the 7th chapter [link] of the very well known book "Roman Catholicism" by Lorraine Boettner; 1962 [pdf].
Concerning these two topics:
THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION: "Many Protestants misunderstand this doctrine and assume that it relates to the virgin birth of Christ. It relates, however, to Mary’s own birth, and has therefore no direct reference to the virgin birth of Christ..."
THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: "...on November 1, 1950, with the ex cathedra pronouncement by pope Pius XII that Mary’s body was raised from the grave shortly after she died, that her body and soul were reunited, and that she was taken up and enthroned as Queen of Heaven...Thus Mary’s body was miraculously preserved from corruption, and her resurrection and ascension are made to parallel Christ’s resurrection and ascension. And she, like Him, is said to be enthroned in heaven where she makes intercession for the millions of people throughout the world who seek her assistance...."
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From: Chapter 7 Mary
The Roman Catholic Church officially denies worshiping Mary. Officially she says that Mary is only a creature, highly exalted, but still a creature, in no way equal to God. Yet she tells us that Mary hears the prayers of millions and that she constantly gives attention to her followers throughout the world. It may well be that, as Rome says, she does not intend idolatry. But the intention and the practical working out of the system are two different things. We must insist that it is worship, and that therefore it is idolatry as practised by millions of people who kneel before Mary’s statues and pray and sing to her. Most of these people know nothing at all of the technical distinctions made by their theologians between adoration and worship. It certainly is idolatrous to give her the attributes of omnipresence and omniscience and to give her titles and functions which belong to God, as when, by pope Pius XII, she was officially designated the ‘Queen of Heaven,’ and ‘Queen of the World,’ and when prayers are made to her for salvation.
We have mentioned the most famous of the prayers addressed to Mary, the Ave Maria, or Hail Mary. As commonly used, this prayer follows the Lord’s prayer and is offered in precisely the same way. Assuming that there are one hundred million ‘practising’ Roman Catholics throughout the world [1962], and that half of them say the rosary at least once each day—the rosary contains fifty ‘Hail Marys’ and takes quite some time to repeat—Mary would have to have the attributes of deity to hear and answer such a mass of prayer. Surely Roman Catholics themselves can see the impossibility of all those prayers being heard and answered by one who by the admission of their own church is not God, but only human. The whole thing is a deceit and an illusion. Even if it were true that the spirits of the departed have access to this world, that could not be known except by divine revelation. And no such revelation exists.
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14. THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION
The doctrine of the ‘Immaculate Conception’ teaches that Mary herself was born without sin, that from the very first moment of her existence she was free from the taint of original sin [1]. It holds that while all the rest of mankind are born into an inheritance of original sin, Mary alone, by a special miracle of God, was excepted. The original decree setting forth this doctrine was issued by pope Pius IX, on December 8, 1854, and reads as follows:
‘We declare, pronounce and define that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, at the first instant of her conception was preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin, by the singular grace and privilege of the Omnipotent God, in virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of mankind, and that this doctrine was revealed by God, and therefore must be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful’ (From the papal bull, Ineffabilus Deus, quoted in The Tablet, December 12, 1953).
Many Protestants misunderstand this doctrine and assume that it relates to the virgin birth of Christ. It relates, however, to Mary’s own birth, and has therefore no direct reference to the virgin birth of Christ.
Side by side with the doctrine that Mary was born without sin, there developed the doctrine that she did not commit sin at any time during her life. Then, as one link reached out for another, they gave her the attribute of impeccability, which means that she could not sin, that her nature was such that it was impossible for her to sin! All of this was a natural outgrowth of their worship of Mary, a further step in her deification. Their Mariolatry demanded it! They sensed that if they were to give her the worship that is due to our Lord, she must be sinless...
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The Archetypal and Typological Foundations of Marian Dogma: A Scriptural Analysis of the Immaculate Conception, Queenship, and Bodily Assumption
The doctrinal architecture of the Blessed Virgin Mary’s identity within Christian theology is not a late developmental accretion but is deeply rooted in the typological fabric of the Old Testament. To understand the Immaculate Conception, the Queenship of Mary, and her bodily Assumption, one must look to the doctrinal seeds planted in the earliest strata of Sacred Scripture. Biblical typology—the study of persons, places, and events that foreshadow later, greater realities—provides the essential framework for recognizing Mary as the fulfillment of ancient archetypes. In this hermeneutic, the antitype, or the fulfilling person/event, is always greater than the type, or the earlier person/event; otherwise, it would not be a fulfillment but a mere repetition on the same level as the old. This analysis demonstrates that the Catholic Church’s claims regarding Mary are not derived solely from Tradition but are fundamentally biblical, emerging from a nuanced reading of the Old Testament as a prefigurement of the New Covenant.
## The Protoevangelium and the Genesis of the New Eve
The first scriptural evidence for the Immaculate Conception appears at the very dawn of human history in Genesis 3:15, a passage historically referred to as the Protoevangelium or the First Gospel. Following the fall of Adam and Eve, God addresses the serpent: "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; she shall crush your head, and you shall bruise her heel". The theological weight of this passage rests on the term enmity, which in its original context denotes a radical, complete, and entire mutual opposition.
Cont'd In the divine decree, this enmity is established between the serpent, representing Satan, and the Woman, as well as between their respective seeds. Because the seed of the Woman is universally identified in the Christian tradition as Jesus Christ—who possesses absolute opposition to sin—it follows that the Woman mentioned in this prophecy must refer to Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ. If Mary were ever under the dominion of sin, even for an instant at her conception, the enmity between her and the serpent would not be absolute; she would have been, however briefly, an ally of the serpent through original sin. Thus, the Immaculate Conception is the necessary condition for the enmity prophesied by God Himself.
Furthermore, Mary is revealed here as the New Eve. Just as the first Eve was created in a state of original grace, "very good" and free from sin, but ultimately succumbed to the serpent’s wiles, the New Eve must be created in a state of grace to reverse the trajectory of the Fall. Typologically, if the first Eve was created without the stain of sin in a garden of perfection, the New Eve, who brings forth the Savior, cannot be less perfect than her predecessor. Adam and Eve were not created in a state of sin but only fell into it through disobedience (Genesis 3:1); it follows that the New Adam and the New Eve would likewise be created "very good" and without sin. This relationship is not merely parallel but superior; while the first Eve invited Adam to eat the forbidden fruit, leading to death, the new Woman, Mary, invites Jesus to perform His first public miracle at Cana, initiating His ministry of redemption and life.
### Typological Comparison of the Two Eves
| Feature | The First Eve (Type) | The New Eve: Mary (Antitype) |
|---|---|---|
| **Creation State** | Created "very good" and without sin (Gen 1:31) | Conceived immaculately without original sin |
| **Relationship to the Man** | Mother of all the living (Gen 3:20) | Mother of the redeemed and the Messianic King |
| **Encounter with the Angel** | Listened to the fallen angel (serpent) | Listened to the Archangel Gabriel (Luke 1:28) |
| **Result of Response** | Disobedience led to the Fall and death | Obedience (Fiat) led to the Incarnation and life |
| **Conflict with Evil** | Enmity established after the Fall (Gen 3:15) | Absolute and perpetual enmity with Satan |
The Immaculate Conception emphasizes that Mary did indeed need a Savior, but her salvation was accomplished by Jesus through His work on the Cross in a different and more glorious way. To illustrate this, theologians often use the analogy of a pit: while most of humanity is rescued after falling into the pit of original sin, Mary was saved by God’s preventive grace, which kept her from falling into the pit at the moment of her conception. This singular privilege was granted in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race.
## The New Ark of the Covenant: The Perfect Dwelling Place
Arguably the greatest of the Old Testament types of Mary is the Ark of the Covenant. The original Ark was the sacred chest that held the presence of God for the people of Israel and was constructed with extreme precision under divine command (Exodus 25-30). It was a place where God Himself would dwell, and as such, it was a perfect container covered with pure gold within and without. If God required a flawless chest of wood and gold to hold the stone tablets of the Law, it follows that He would prepare a far more perfect, immaculate dwelling place for His Word made flesh, Jesus Christ.
### Parallels Between the Old and New Arks
The Gospel of Luke deliberately uses linguistic and situational parallels to the account of David and the Ark in 2 Samuel 6 to identify Mary as the New Ark. When the Ark was completed in the Old Testament, the glory cloud of the Lord, the Shekinah, covered the tent and filled the tabernacle (Exodus 40:34-35). This specific verb for overshadowing is used in the New Testament when Gabriel tells Mary that the Holy Spirit will "overshadow" her (Luke 1:35), indicating that her womb becomes the new tabernacle of the Most High.
| Historical Event | Ark of the Old Covenant (2 Samuel 6) | Mary: New Ark of the Covenant (Luke 1) |
|---|---|---|
| **The Journey** | David arose and went to the hill country of Judah (v. 2) | Mary arose and went to the hill country of Judah (v. 39) |
| **The Greeting** | David asks: "How can the ark of the Lord come to me?" (v. 9) | Elizabeth asks: "Why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (v. 43) |
| **The Reaction** | David leapt and danced before the Ark (v. 14) | John the Baptist leapt in Elizabeth's womb at Mary's greeting (v. 41, 44) |
| **The Duration** | The Ark remained in the house of Obed-edom for three months (v. 11) | Mary remained in the house of Elizabeth for three months (v. 56) |
| **The Blessing** | The presence of the Ark blessed the house of Obed-edom (v. 11) | Elizabeth and the fruit of Mary's womb are declared blessed (v. 42) |
The contents of the Ark further reinforce this typology. The original Ark contained the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments, a gold vessel of manna, and the rod of Aaron that blossomed (Hebrews 9:4). Each of these find their ultimate fulfillment in the child carried by Mary.
| Item in the Old Ark | Christological Fulfillment in Mary's Womb |
|---|---|
| **The Law of God (Stone Tablets)** | The Word of God in the flesh |
| **The Manna (Bread from Heaven)** | The Bread of Life who brings eternal life |
| **The Rod of Aaron (Priesthood)** | The true and eternal High Priest |
This typology demands a sinless vessel. If the Ark of the Old Covenant was so holy that touching it improperly resulted in death (2 Samuel 6:7), how much more holy must the Mother of God be, who carried the Reality that the Ark only prefigured?. St. Gregory the Wonderworker in the third century noted that Mary is truly an ark, "gold within and gold without," having received all the treasures of the sanctuary within her womb.
## Linguistic Proofs of the Immaculate Conception: *Kecharitomene*
The scriptural basis for the Immaculate Conception is not limited to Old Testament types but is confirmed by the specific Greek terminology used in the New Testament. When the Angel Gabriel greets Mary in Luke 1:28, he uses a unique salutation: "Hail, full of grace" (Kaire, Kecharitomene). The angel does not call Mary by her given name, Miryam, but instead bestows a new title upon her that communicates something permanent about her character and identity.
### The Morphology of *Kecharitomene*
The Greek word *kecharitomene* is a perfect passive participle of the root word *charitoo*, which means to fill or endow with grace. The use of this specific grammatical form carries profound theological implications:
1. **Perfect Tense**: The perfect tense in Greek denotes an action that was completed in the past with results that continue into the present. This implies that Mary was filled with grace at a point prior to the angel’s visit—specifically at her conception—and that she remained in this state of grace-fullness throughout her life.
2. **Passive Voice**: The passive voice indicates that Mary is the recipient of this grace; it is a work performed upon her by God.
3. **Use as a Name**: Gabriel does not say "Hail Mary, you are full of grace," but rather "Hail, Kecharitomene". In biblical tradition, renaming a person (such as Abram to Abraham) signifies that the new name reflects the person’s essential nature. Grace is not just something Mary has; it is who she is.
### Comparison with Other Scriptural Passages
CRITICS often point to other figures described as being full of grace to suggest Mary’s state is not unique. However, a comparison of the Greek texts reveals significant differences.
| Figure | Scriptural Verse | Greek Term Used | Grammatical Significance |
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| **
Feature | Old Testament *Gebirah* | Mary as the New *Gebirah* |
|---|---|---|
| **Royal Seat** | Sat on a throne at the king's right hand (1 Kings 2:19) | Exalted at the right hand of Christ (Ps 45:9, Rev 12:1) |
| **Intercession** | People asked her to bring requests to the king (1 Kings 2:17) | Mary brings our needs to Jesus (John 2:3) |
| **Official Title** | *Gebirah* ("Great Lady")
| **Intercession** | People asked her to bring requests to the king (1 Kings 2:17) | Mary brings our needs to Jesus (John 2:3) |
| **Official Title** | *Gebirah* ("Great Lady") | "The Mother of my Lord" (Luke 1:43) |
| **Royal Lineage** | Mentioned alongside every Davidic king in the annals | Gabriel identifies Jesus as the heir to David's throne (Luke 1:32) |
| **Authority** | Exercised influence and shared in the son's reign | Crowned with twelve stars, representing the New Israel (Rev 12:1) |
The Davidic kingdom was a type of the Messianic Kingdom. If Jesus is the promised Son of David who reigns on David's throne forever (Luke 1:32-33), then the pattern of the Davidic court—including the office of the Queen Mother—reaches its perfect fulfillment in Mary. She is Queen not because she shares God’s sovereignty, but because she is the mother of the King of kings. Her dignity is Christological, deriving entirely from her relationship to her Son.
## Psalm 45: The Nuptial Song of the King and Queen
Psalm 45 (Psalm 44 in some numbering) is a royal wedding song that the Fathers of the Church saw as a profound prophecy regarding Christ and Mary. It portrays a king who is a most handsome man riding victoriously for truth and righteousness, identified in Hebrews 1:8 as Jesus Christ. In the second half of the Psalm, the focus shifts to the queen.
### The Princess and the Command to "Forget Her Father"
The Psalm addresses the queen-to-be as a "daughter": "Hear, O daughter, consider, and incline your ear; forget your people and your father's house; and the king will desire your beauty" (Psalm 45:10-11). In a Marian context, this "forgetting" signifies a total break from the old world and earthly relations to enter into the service of the King of kings.q
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### The Princess and the Command to "Forget Her Father"
The Psalm addresses the queen-to-be as a "daughter": "Hear, O daughter, consider, and incline your ear; forget your people and your father's house; and the king will desire your beauty" (Psalm 45:10-11). In a Marian context, this "forgetting" signifies a total break from the old world and earthly relations to enter into the service of the King of kings.
1. **Divine Transformation**: Patristic commentary, including that of Pope John Paul II, suggests that Mary is told to pay no attention to her earthly parents because she will be transformed into a heavenly queen.
2. **The Incarnation**: By "forgetting her father’s house," she prepares to conceive the Word of God. The Father Himself takes her as a "bride" in the sense that the Holy Spirit arranges the conditions for the miraculous conception of Christ.
3. **Spiritual Beauty**: The "beauty" that the king desires is not merely physical, but the dazzling inner light and purity of her soul—her immaculate nature.
The Psalm also notes that "at your right hand stands the queen in gold of Ophir" (v. 9). While the Church is often called the bride of Christ, Mary is the only individual woman depicted with a crown in heaven (Revelation 12:1), fitting the description of the "royal daughter" who is "all glorious" in her clothing woven of gold.
### The Scepter of Judah and the Eternal Kingdom
The "scepter" mentioned in Psalm 45:6 ("Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity") is a symbol of absolute authority and justice. This scepter traces its origins back to the prophecy of Jacob in Genesis 49:10: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he to whom it belongs shall come".
The Psalm also notes that "at your right hand stands the queen in gold of Ophir" (v. 9). While the Church is often called the bride of Christ, Mary is the only individual woman depicted with a crown in heaven (Revelation 12:1), fitting the description of the "royal daughter" who is "all glorious" in her clothing woven of gold.
### The Scepter of Judah and the Eternal Kingdom
The "scepter" mentioned in Psalm 45:6 ("Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity") is a symbol of absolute authority and justice. This scepter traces its origins back to the prophecy of Jacob in Genesis 49:10: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he to whom it belongs shall come".
Mary’s queenship is intrinsically linked to this scepter. As the mother of the "Lion of the tribe of Judah," she participated in the preservation of the royal line. In Psalm 45, the queen stands beside the King who wields this scepter. While the Roman soldiers mocked Jesus with a staff as a fake scepter, the reality is that the scepter of Judah reached its eternal fulfillment in Christ, and His mother was elevated to share in that royal dignity as the *Gebirah* of the new and eternal Davidic kingdom.
## The Bodily Assumption: Archetypes of Preservation from Decay
The doctrine of the Assumption teaches that Mary, at the end of her earthly life, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory. While not explicitly stated in the New Testament narrative, the Assumption is prefigured by several Old Testament accounts and follows logically from her Immaculate Conception.
### Enoch and Elijah as Precedents
The Bible records at least two instances where God elected to take a human being bodily into heaven as an exception to the normal experience of death and decay.
* **Enoch**: Genesis 5:24 says, "Enoch walked with God, and he was no longer here, for God took him away". Hebrews 11:5 clarifies that "by faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death".
* **Elijah**: 2 Kings 2:11 describes how "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" in a chariot of fire.
If God granted this "blessed gift" to Enoch and Elijah because of their holiness, it is profoundly fitting that He would also preserve the Mother of His Son from the corruption of the grave. As the one who bore and nursed the Word of God, Christ would not see the woman who gave Him His human nature "rot" or decay. The Assumption is a reflection of Christ’s obedience to the command to "honor your father and mother".
**The River of Grace**: The Psalm mentions a "river" that makes the city glad. This is interpreted as the streams of grace that flow from God into Mary’s soul, maintaining her in a state of perpetual holiness and life.
## Synthesis of the Biblical Archetypes
The Catholic understanding of Mary is built upon a cohesive unit in which the Old Testament prefigures the New and the New fulfills the Old. The "doctrinal seeds" planted in the Protoevangelium develop through the imagery of the Ark, the office of the *Gebirah*, and the prophecies of the royal nuptials into the full-grown dogmas of the Church.
* **Immaculate Conception**: Foreshadowed by the "enmity" of Genesis 3:15 and the "pure gold" of the Ark; confirmed by the unique Greek title *Kecharitomene* (Luke 1:28).
* **Queenship**: Foreshadowed by the Davidic Queen Mother (*Gebirah*) who sat at the right hand of the king (1 Kings 2:19); confirmed by the woman crowned with twelve stars in Revelation 12.
* **Assumption**: Foreshadowed by the translations of Enoch and Elijah and the "arising" of the Ark in Psalm 132; confirmed by the presence of the Ark/Woman in the heavenly temple of Revelation 11-12.
The scriptural framework provides the necessary evidence to show that Mary is not an addition to the mission of Christ, but an integral part of how the Davidic covenant reaches its climax in the Kingdom of God. Her role as the New Eve ensures the total reversal of the Fall, her role as the New Ark ensures a perfect dwelling for the Savior, and her role as the *Gebirah* ensures a maternal advocate for all the children of the new covenant. These "mountain peak moments" of the Old Testament inform the three Marian dogmas, revealing that the Lord’s revelation of His mother is consistent and deeply embedded in the sacred text from beginning to end. In the person of Mary, the "scepter of Judah" finds its most faithful daughter, and in her "Yes," the world finds the "beauty" that the King of kings forever desires.
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Few realize this truth but Mary was a surrogate - Jesus Christ the Son of God had no adamic dna whatsoever - i.e. nothing from the adamic woman Mary. This actually makes the Catholic doctrine of Mary being born w/o 'original sin' pointless (besides there being no scripture backing it up plainly) because the body of Jesus was created new and totally separate from any connection to the fallen adamic race. Mary's genetics have nothing to do with this issue as the body of Jesus Christ had no dna from her at all (sinless or not - for the sake of argument). None zero. The only role Mary was given to play was the child being birthed from her womb - which was necessary that Christ be born human -- as this verse from Hebrews makes very plain - a body was 'prepared' for him (not from the dust of the ground this time as was the 'first man'*):
Hebrews 10:5 'Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me'
The Lord Jesus Christ was not related in any way to the sinful Adamic bloodline (babies in the womb do not share a mother's blood even) - he is the firstborn of an entirely new bloodline (no genetics from Mary) - Col. 1:15 - which is why the bible identifies him as the "last Adam" - 1 Cor. 15:45 - and also as "the second man" (i.e. completely new separate genetic make up):
*1 Cor 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven
This is the bedrock foundation of the truth of the incarnation of Jesus Christ - apart from this truth the incarnation of the '2nd man' would be of no value make no sense.
Rev. 18:4
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