tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post7059586931838548056..comments2024-03-07T09:18:53.344-10:00Comments on Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): Obama Petitions Court: Throw Birth Certificate Case Outtom m.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-51072267497441661812008-10-02T09:17:00.000-10:002008-10-02T09:17:00.000-10:00the msm is a massive rug...and the endless distrac...the msm is a massive rug...and the endless distractions that they fill the airwaves with work as a giant broom...sweeping 'all' truth under that very very lumpy rug<BR/><BR/>there has been absolute silence on the issue coming from the bureau of propaganda...not a single mention that i'm aware of<BR/><BR/>no surprise, their job is to keep the illusion going...if this story got out it could ruin everything.<BR/><BR/>it will be interesting to see what the court does with the case from here...keep watching<BR/><BR/>Rev. 18:4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-72492566826428909462008-10-02T04:45:00.000-10:002008-10-02T04:45:00.000-10:00HummmmmmMethinks it takes a mighty big rug to swee...Hummmmmm<BR/>Methinks it takes a mighty big rug to sweep this to silence.<BR/><BR/>Anybody heard much of a peep on the mainstream news?<BR/><BR/>I'm stickin with my vote for the King of kings.<BR/><BR/>AB LeeverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-83909355653916578622008-10-01T12:15:00.000-10:002008-10-01T12:15:00.000-10:00Alison, there seems to be quite a bit of controver...Alison, there seems to be quite a bit of controversy swirling around this issue...and it hinges on the definition of "natural born" which has generally been accepted to mean actually born in one of the fifty states. It is noteworthy that no 'non-born' of one of the 50 states has ever held the office of president. The case against McCain has been based on the clause in Section 1 Article II and the clause in the 14th amendment, again, on the "natural born" question <BR/>***<BR/>some excerpts from Wiki on the topic, which is of course an open source, meaning anybody can write the entry<BR/><BR/><BR/>from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen<BR/>***<BR/><BR/>Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:<BR/><BR/>“ No Person except a natural born <BR/>Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.<BR/>----------<BR/>(That is the crux of the matter right there)<BR/>----------<BR/>The Fourteenth Amendment mentions two types of citizenship: citizenship by birth and citizenship by law (naturalized citizens): "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."<BR/><BR/>also;<BR/><BR/>All persons born in the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of foreign diplomats) are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Persons born in the United States, and persons born on foreign soil to two U.S. parents, are born American citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under 8 USC 1401. There is some debate over whether persons who were born US citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under U.S. law should also be considered citizens "by birth," whether they should all be considered to be "naturalized," or whether they should be considered "statutory citizens." There is also some debate over whether there is a meaningful legal distinction between citizens "at birth", citizens "by birth" and "statutory citizens" since U.S. law makes no such distinction, nor does the Fourteenth Amendment use the term "at birth." Current U.S. statutes define certain individuals born overseas as "citizens at birth."[12] One side of the argument interprets the Constitution as meaning that a person either is born in the United States or is a naturalized citizen. According to this view, in order to be a "natural born citizen," a person must be born in the United States, or possibly an incorporated territory; otherwise, they are a citizen "by law" and are therefore a "statutory citizen," (not necessarily, however, a naturalized citizen, which implies a pre-existing foreign citizenship).[2] Current State Department policy reads: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."[13] However, the State Department is of the opinion that this does not affect those who are born abroad to U.S. citizens and who otherwise meet the qualifications for statutory citizenship.[14]<BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>One 'constitutional expert' i've read (i've only read that one) was of the opinion that McCain's situation (statutory at best) would be a sure disqualification. Obama's, if true, is no way at all.<BR/>********<BR/>bottom line..sustainable development has nothing to do with sovereign nation-states, but is 100% world government. The politicians are all signed on to the program. A facilitator is a facilitator is a facilitator...this country is to be merged into the 'North American Continent' region of the global system...aka Canamerexico. The rest is show.<BR/><BR/>Interesting to watch thoughtom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-48240249620491506932008-10-01T07:30:00.000-10:002008-10-01T07:30:00.000-10:00....and no matter who is elected, methinks that we.......and no matter who is elected, methinks that we are stuck with a minion of the prince of the air...and his "powers party" ( for a season )<BR/><BR/>afterthought<BR/><BR/>AB LeeverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-31799296966997485802008-10-01T07:28:00.000-10:002008-10-01T07:28:00.000-10:00McCainIs it not true that children born of militar...McCain<BR/>Is it not true that children born of military outside of the US are still US citizens? Wasn't the canal zone considered a US territory then?<BR/><BR/>Obama<BR/>Apparetly Obama was born in Kenya but of a mother who was a US citizen resident of Hawaii. That would qualify him to be considered an American born citizen...just as McCain.<BR/><BR/>This is what I'm commin up with lookin around. Geeez it would be a drag to end up with Bush for another go round ( kidding)<BR/><BR/>AB LeeverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com