tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post4560570036078574644..comments2024-03-07T09:18:53.344-10:00Comments on Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): Calvary Chapel's Chuck Smith Bows To Mormon God; Tells 10-yr Old Girl "Good Mormons...Will Be In Heaven"tom m.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-568082924350636062013-12-14T08:59:22.991-10:002013-12-14T08:59:22.991-10:0011-9-11 ...sure enough11-9-11 ...sure enoughtom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-24985065530512924502013-12-14T08:43:37.943-10:002013-12-14T08:43:37.943-10:00Weird to think that the mormon fiasco happened on ...Weird to think that the mormon fiasco happened on 9-11. Demons are at work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-51430195265662587562013-04-09T10:24:54.412-10:002013-04-09T10:24:54.412-10:00Luke 8:17-18
'For nothing is secret, that sh...<i>Luke 8:17-18 <br /><br />'For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.<br /><br />Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have'</i>tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-32801599339954932532013-04-08T17:06:36.369-10:002013-04-08T17:06:36.369-10:00that is exactly what he was saying. He has also ha...that is exactly what he was saying. He has also had 2strokes fighting Cancer and he is no spring chicken. It is about growing in the Word having a solid foundation and grounded in truth . studying the Word and knowing it ourselves . not relying on man but God. Amen anonymous I agree . Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17894932466088700220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-5145270442213579112013-02-28T21:08:25.573-10:002013-02-28T21:08:25.573-10:00Anon,
(did a quick search, date was 2-26-13)
Tha...Anon,<br /><br />(did a quick search, date was 2-26-13)<br /><br />Thanks for passing that information on. Maybe it will help some Calvary Chapel-ers to face the hard truth - <br /><br />And what concord hath Christ with Belial?<br /><br /><i>Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins - Rev. 18:4</i><br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-48351285375829771582013-02-28T18:02:44.767-10:002013-02-28T18:02:44.767-10:00Chuck Smith had Rick Warren on "pastor's ...Chuck Smith had Rick Warren on "pastor's perspective", the radio call-in show of the official Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa radio station. Sickening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-29249593148774095572013-02-27T10:10:32.937-10:002013-02-27T10:10:32.937-10:00Satan (Lucifer) also has faith in jesus...the one ...Satan (Lucifer) also has faith in jesus...the one he created to deceive the masses.<br /><br />John 3:16 is only true if you are 'believing' in the true Jesus. The Christ, the savior of humanity. That Jesus is the one and only God.<br /><br />So no, Mormons that trust in "jesus" are not following John 3:16...because they believe in "a different jesus" and not in Jesus the Christ (the one true God).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-60885785568402856452013-02-15T14:08:17.577-10:002013-02-15T14:08:17.577-10:00Anon,
re: most mormons believe in a "false&q...Anon,<br /><br />re: most mormons believe in a "false" Jesus<br /><br />No, all Mormons believe in a false 'Jesus'.<br /><br />re: "...is it possible, for someone to go to a mormon church, who got genuinly saved and transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, and be deceived into thinking that somehow the Mormon church is actually Christian? Of course it's possible!"<br /><br />Here is where your argument is fundamentally flawed. 1Thes. 1:8,9 shows us that one of the first signs of a person "who got genuinely saved and transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit" ...is that they "turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God". It is no evidence of the new birth if a person is still worshiping idols, or a false god who is the spirit-brother of Lucifer, and has still not turned to the living and true God. The work of the Holy Spirit in a truly regenerate person, in every case, will be to reveal the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in truth. John 14:17; 16:13,14-15<br /><br />So no, actually it is not possible for a "genuinely saved person" to be deceived into believing that any false religion, including the Mormon religion, is Christian. To say otherwise is to sleight God the Holy Spirit and say that He is unable to do what He promised. Many religions have a false 'jesus'. Nothing special about Mormons in that respect. Much of the outward professing Christian church today has a false jesus for that matter. These are the ones who will say: "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? ...only to hear: "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" Matt. 7:22-23 ...Attaching the name of Jesus to religious activity is not salvation.<br /><br />These are the things the little girl should have been told, and the multitude of radio listeners. It was was a public forum, and if in a public forum, a public critique is perfectly acceptable. The issue in question is critical..Galatians 1 tells us "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed"<br /><br />"there are a lot of good Mormons who do believe in Jesus and I believe they will be in heaven" is another gospel. It is no light thing to be excused away by saying 'grace grace'. To warn about such gross error is absolutely needful, according to the Word of God, even if it comes from an angel from heaven. <br /><br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-91800965079782590642013-02-14T15:37:18.699-10:002013-02-14T15:37:18.699-10:00Hi Tom, I think that you are failing to understand...Hi Tom, I think that you are failing to understand what Chuck said. He began his statement by saying that, "It all depends on her relationship with Jesus Christ." Like you, I also find fault with his statement that there will be a lot of good mormons in heaven but I understand what he was saying. The church that we attend holds no bearing on our eternal salvation. It all depends on whether or not we as individuals have a personal relationship with the one and only True God through His Son Jesus Christ (Rom.10:9-10). I understand that most mormons believe in a "false" Jesus that is NOT the same Jesus taught of in the word of God. But, is it possible, for someone to go to a mormon church, who got genuinly saved and transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, and be deceived into thinking that somehow the Mormon church is actually Christian? Of course it's possible! That's why we are exhorted throughout the New Testament not to be deceived by false teachers and false prophets. Do I agree with Chuck's statement that there will be alot of good Mormons in heaven? Absolutely not! But do I believe that we are saved by grace alone thru faith alone as taught in Eph. 2:8-9? Absolutely I do. I guess my caution to you is to be careful not to judge others too quickly. Jesus warned us about going around and pointing out other people's faults when there are many sins in our own lives that we haven't dealt with (Matt 7:1-5). Is what Chuck said inorrect here? I think so. But does that make him a devil worshipping pagan because he had 1 lapse of faith? I don't think so. Check it out, Peter also had a lapse of faith AFTER he was saved and filled with the power of the Holy Spirit, so much so that Paul openly rebuiked him (Gal 2:11-16). My advise to you is to approach Chuck personally and confront him on what he said. But don't write blogs slandering his name when you don't understand what it was that Chuck was getting at. The heart of his message was that the only thing that saves us is the blood of Jesus shed for our sins. Believeing in Him is our only means of salvation not what church we go to and not what we say on a radio program. Remember the words of James, brother, "Let every man be swift to listen, SLOW TO SPEAK, and slow to wrath, for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God." James 1:19-20. Blessings on you, thanks for your zeal for the Lord, but don't neglect grace or we become like Christian Pharisees. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-1409666539258015452012-06-13T12:58:25.981-10:002012-06-13T12:58:25.981-10:00Peter, before the cross and the resurrection, whic...Peter, before the cross and the resurrection, which led up to the day of Pentecost and the filling of the Holy Ghost, did in fact deny Jesus.<br /><br />Peter's denial was before conversion though, which is why the Lord Jesus Christ said this to him just a short time before he did deny him thrice (Luke 22:34): <br /><br /><i>Luke 22:31 ¶ And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:<br /><br />32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and <b>when thou art converted</b>, strengthen thy brethren.</i><br /><br />After the cross and the resurrection and the day of Pentecost (Acts 2) and the filling of the Holy Ghost, Peter was a "new creature in Christ" and "endued with power from on high". Luke 24:49<br /><br />The apostle Paul warned believers: <br /><br /><i>"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him" 2Cor. 11:4</i><br /><br />Mormonism without question teaches "another Jesus", and any who would believe in this entity will in fact have to "receive another spirit", which things come out of "another gospel" i.e. the book of Mormon.<br /><br />Chuck Smith made the statement that "a lot of good Mormons who believe in 'Jesus'...will be in heaven", not ex-Mormons who discovered that the Mormon Jesus is a counterfeit and came out and were born again will be in heaven, which by the way it seems that that was really what the 10-yr. old girl was asking. <br /><br />And what does being a "good" believer in "another Jesus" have to do with anything? Nothing at all for there are none good: <i>Romans 3:12 'They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one."</i><br /><br />Quoting from above: 1John 2:21 "...no lie is of the truth".tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-44447067483652147942012-06-12T21:53:40.076-10:002012-06-12T21:53:40.076-10:00Is it possible for a man after God's own heart...Is it possible for a man after God's own heart to speak in error? Did not Jesus rebuke Peter, saying "Get behind me Satan." Did not Peter lie and say that he did not know Christ?<br /><br />If every word we ever spoke were to be published, would we not be under the same condemnation as you have placed on others?<br /><br />Before you label Chuck Smith a fraud, should you not first examine your own faults? Who are we to judge another's servant, do they not have a judge and will they not stand or fall before Him?<br /><br />I was once a Roman Catholic. I was born again while a Roman Catholic. As a Roman Catholic I loved Jesus. As a follower of Christ, I was led out of Roman Catholicism. Is it not possible that Chuck Smith was speaking to this little girl concerning her relative that if any person, be they led by Christ, they will find eternal life?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-8940638527431314142011-12-07T11:24:06.012-10:002011-12-07T11:24:06.012-10:00Matthew 13:9 ' Who hath ears to hear, let him ...Matthew 13:9 ' Who hath ears to hear, let him hear'tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-70034740998127704872011-12-06T19:17:11.640-10:002011-12-06T19:17:11.640-10:00clearly years of compromise and programing are rev...clearly years of compromise and programing are revealing the fruit of Chuck Smith's false teaching. Calvary Chapel has been a success at getting the sheep so preoccupied with Social Justice issues, "Americana," and loving everyone to death (hell). Line upon line precept upon precept? Simply teaching God's word simply? Avoiding the word Repent and sin and joining hands with Ecumenical men and movements is not the Whole Word of God. The people cried for a King and they got Saul, the sheeple cried for a way out of "Organized" religion and they got a cult leader and a fraud. Wake up people before it's too late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com