tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post15600883214252758..comments2024-03-07T09:18:53.344-10:00Comments on Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): Israel Closes All Embassies Worldwide: Hagee "Four Blood Moons" Hoax, Katy Perry's 'Dark Horse' Related?tom m.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-35385585670302996402021-08-12T07:54:45.051-10:002021-08-12T07:54:45.051-10:00
to Meme (directly above)
yup...even so
<br />to Meme (directly above)<br /><br />yup...even so<br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-67248633041584799242021-08-11T15:52:22.371-10:002021-08-11T15:52:22.371-10:00I DO believe that the Lord led me to your Blog. I ...I DO believe that the Lord led me to your Blog. I have learned SO much here. Once I found the page first time where you spoke of Israel not being fulfilled yet, I studied Daniel AND that topic for over a month and I am not done. So far, all you say lines up with Scripture. I heard years ago that it was bought by a family, so I had a place to start after beginning in Daniel as I went on the Internet. I learn more ever day even though I am reading things as far back as 2008! I really want to say thank you, PLEASE keep it coming! Speaking of the leadings, I was going to ask you where we are now. Your answer is in the comments on this very video! Let by the Holy Ghost to this posting, without a doubt. Please keep it coming, brother, and your hard work, ALL from Scripture - praise God! - is SO much appreciated! God bless and keep you always! Even so come, Lord Jesus! Memehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08180418790662784632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-70529183980486845782018-03-11T18:00:07.884-10:002018-03-11T18:00:07.884-10:00Linda,
From your comment it would seem that you ...Linda, <br /><br />From your comment it would seem that you may be a Catholic - or Catholic approving. Have to let know you though, if not already aware, that much has been written on this blog that strongly opposes Catholicism - as being truly an 'anti (true Jesus) Christ' religion. Here are a couple of quotes (fyi), just a sample, one from a recent post on a Super Bowl 2018 commercial, and one from a few years back:<br /><br /><a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2018/02/toyota-2018-super-bowl-one-world.html" rel="nofollow">Toyota 2018 Super Bowl One World Antichrist Religion Commercial - Allah Mary Buddha Hashem "All One Team"</a> "...and the Catholic has no true conception whatsoever that "Jesus is the Christ". The Catholic 'jesus' is a body hanging on a cross on the wall of the church building (or around their neck) while praying "Hail Mary" and "Our Father" and offering other prayers to various 'saints' [Matt. 28:5-6]..." <br /><br />"For the record, Catholicism - popes, priests, nuns, masses, saints, Mary worship, novenas, rosarys, confessionals, lent, infant baptism...all these things and so much more - are all against scripture, which then follows that they are actually against the Lord Jesus Christ himself, which is to say then that they are 'anti-christ'. Hard pill to swallow or not it is true..." <br /><a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-church-calls-for-666-global.html" rel="nofollow">link</a><br /><br />Many more posts, similar, can be found in the Categories column on the right side under 'catholic-related'. Advance notice though you might not like what you read. In all of them the contention is that Catholicism is a non-biblical religion. <br /><br />My position is everything <b>must</b> be according to Scripture only or it is not of God. <br /><br />Which brings up one thing more though - on the Mass - since you brought it up. The mass is actually very unscriptural. This was touched on in another post - this quote: "[Catholic religion has been]...re-crucifying the Lord Jesus Christ at every 'mass' for more than fifteen hundred years through "transubstantiation"; as well giving a man, i.e. a so-called priest who is anti-biblically called "father' [Matt. 23:9] the 'authority' to forgive sin...as long as the 'sinner' then does "penance" i.e. practices repetitive prayer aka "vain repetitions" [Matt. 6:7] - and so much more - all of which have no basis whatsoever in scripture; in fact all of which directly contradict scripture..." <a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2016/03/entire-catholic-church-of-michigan.html" rel="nofollow">link</a><br /><br />Anyway just want to be right up front so you're aware that there may be more things here that you disagree with.<br /><br />Note on Twitter - i've never really used twitter but as far as making it possible to link things maybe i'll look into that. <br /><br />Rev_18.4tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-26505444813711453642018-03-11T15:47:05.468-10:002018-03-11T15:47:05.468-10:00Why not make it easier to twitter some of your pag...Why not make it easier to twitter some of your pages. Though don't believe in all you write but very, very important links to what we should be doing to praise God, Handel's MESSIAH can get so wrapped up in the psy-ops hard to stop and praise God which is the most important thing these days and some of the older sermons before as Barbara Aho points out in detail the churches were massively infiltrated by Freemasonry or whatever, I think it goes above the Vatican, the papacy is only one finger of the Roman hand and more should be known about the Jesuits. I think the local Catholic churches often have sincere Christians giving food to the hungry, visiting the sick and doing to the least of these which is too often left out of sermons discerning ministries and last days warning sites the Catholics don't exclusively preach Mary there is very much in the Mass and in missions for centuries about the Lord Jesus Christ, the real one.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14363591645564418495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-74026173056711854572014-04-14T10:17:05.160-10:002014-04-14T10:17:05.160-10:00Yes, did see that. The psy-ops are endless now. Ev...Yes, did see that. The psy-ops are endless now. Every day another one.<br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-52299566841111574632014-04-14T04:53:31.780-10:002014-04-14T04:53:31.780-10:00Don't know if you saw this article or not: htt...Don't know if you saw this article or not: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/14/police-id-suspect-in-attacks-on-jewish-sites-near-kansas-city-as-known-white/. Lots of symbolism within. Suspect from Aurora, last name "Cross" - killed Christians on Jewish site - on the eve of Pesach - "building a world in which all people are free to..."Christsfreeservnthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436752240451893757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-8451691776678766322014-04-02T12:07:47.419-10:002014-04-02T12:07:47.419-10:00I still have the blessed hope of seeing my savior ...I still have the blessed hope of seeing my savior face to face. God is able to preserve his own, through plague, persecution, war, famine, slavery, through it all. There are so many Bible stories that remind us of this. I said that my understanding of the Bible is that we do not know at what watch the bridegroom will return, but we are to be faithful, to trust and obey and watch. Many throughout history and many today have had to give their lives to remain faithful to the gospel, so in that way, I prepare mentally for tribulation, but no, I am not looking for the Antichrist. There are many lower-case antichrists in the world now as well. I try to be wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove, like Christ called us to be. I try to stay abreast of the news and use the lense of Gods word, but then live my daily life as boldly and faithfully as I am able. This life is short anyway in the light of eternity. <br /><br />JoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-2424993169327477302014-04-02T10:59:01.672-10:002014-04-02T10:59:01.672-10:00Joy
re: "...raised under a pre-tribulation r...Joy<br /><br /><i>re: "...raised under a pre-tribulation rapture sort of eschalogical view, but through study of the word of God, I no longer hold that view...and that it is quite possible that the followers of Christ will be here during the tribulation"</i><br /><br />Joy, i'm truly sorry to hear that. To not be "looking for that blessed hope" (Titus 2:13-14), means that you must be, with dread, not looking for the coming of Christ, but looking for the Antichrist.<br /><br />When the apostle Paul in 1Thes 4:16-18 spoke of the <i>true believers</i> (as opposed to the apostate Laodicean church) being caught up to meet the Lord Jesus in the air, he went on to say "comfort one another with these words" (v. 18). There can be no comfort for a believer in preparing for the tribulation.<br /><br />A little more on this subject here: <a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2012/03/not-wrath-but-rapture-for-regenerate.html" rel="nofollow">Not Wrath But Rapture For The Regenerate</a><br /><br />Luke 21:36tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-50083431212955112992014-04-02T10:13:07.987-10:002014-04-02T10:13:07.987-10:00Weighing in with my perspective . . . I study the ...Weighing in with my perspective . . . I study the prophesies in spurts, and try to take notes. I read the scriptures first, then google and read what I find about the time and place in which it was written, and last, maybe a few commentaries. <br /><br />Over time, I have gotten relatively familiar with the Word. I also have realized that there is a true interpretation of the word, but now, some of it is still muddy. But if we know the word, God's Holy Spirit will reveal things to us in the right time.<br /><br />An example of this is Daniel, in Chapter 9, understanding the words of the prophet Jeremiah regarding the seventy year exile of Jeruselem. <br /><br />In my reading, there is much I do not understand, but I still prophet much from the study. I see that God is in control, that everything has a time, that prayer matters a lot. <br /><br />I was raised under a pre-tribulation rapture sort of eschalogical view, but through study of the word of God, I no longer hold that view. I truly believe that no one knows the time of his return, and that it is quite possible that the followers of Christ will be here during the tribulation, just as the Isrealites were in Egypt during the plagues.<br /><br />Thank you for the time you take in preparing this blog. I'm glad you are back to posting.<br /><br />JoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-78761307458883090992014-03-28T14:07:46.593-10:002014-03-28T14:07:46.593-10:00In an e-mail communication, the question below was...In an e-mail communication, the question below was asked about the "fourth beast". It may be helpful to others to clarify this, so is here posted:<br /><br /><i>"the fourth beast is the Roman Empire is it not?"</i><br /><br />If the word 'beast' is understood as meaning world power, this is more easily understood. The fourth world power, or beast, after the fall of Jerusalem in 587 BC was Rome. That was the beginning. Rome was never defeated by another world power though, it basically just faded away. Today this fourth beast is rising up again. Most commonly taught on this point is the "revived Roman empire" theme, but the bible does not say that anywhere. It does not give us 'Rome' revived, it gives us an evolved, if you will, world power. It is different now. Daniel describes it as "diverse from all kingdoms" - Dan. 7:23; in other words it is now different than anything before. What we are told is that it will be ten toes/kings having devoured the whole earth. So, not the Roman empire then - not the pope, etc..<br /><br />This 'diverse kingdom' is what is forming today. It is not yet complete. And the 'Zionists' are doing the forming. This is just the fact.tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-49014037998391438102014-03-27T12:48:17.149-10:002014-03-27T12:48:17.149-10:00re: is the collapse of the entire-world system and...<i>re: is the collapse of the entire-world system and the rise of the ten kings BEFORE Rev. 6 (opening of the Seals) takes place?</i><br /><br />Absolutely. As you correctly state, Rev. 6 white horse rider and eleventh king are one and the same. The 11th king cannot appear before the 10, and so Rev. 6 cannot happen either before the ten kings. And absolutely the body of Christ must be removed before Rev. 6 <br /><br /><i>re: I'm also trying to understand where Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17:1 come into this picture now</i><br /><br />Good questions - these are actually two more massive delusions/deceptions being foisted on correct eschatological understanding. <br /><br />Without going into all the details which is not feasible here, Ps. 83 without question applies specifically to the <b>Jewish remnant</b> DURING the tribulation, who at the that time will be under the persecution of the AC and his hordes. He (Satan) will be attempting to "cut them off from being a nation", which would essentially mean that there would be no Jews to start the millennial kingdom, and that Satan had thwarted God's plan. Of course this will not happen. It absolutely DOES NOT apply in any way to unbelieving Israel today. More falsehood to push the Zionist agenda - specifically to justify going after Syria.<br /><br />Isaiah 17:1 fall of Damascus is another lie. This passage does not refer to the city Damascus of 2014 and beyond. This is a little more complicated because it takes a thorough knowledge of the OT, but Damascus in this reference in Isaiah refers to the Jews political alliances with the nations of the world, rather than staying dependent on God alone. It comes in particular with reference to OT Jewish kings making many alliances with the kings of Syria, instead of trusting the LORD for protection, etc. "Damascus" symbolizes this. Very similar actually to the way the word 'Egypt' is often used to signify 'the world'. Today, this very same type of Jewish political alliance with the nations of the world is called "Zionism". The fall of Damascus then, is really a prophecy of the destruction of all political alliances the Jews have made with the nations. This means that the global Zionist movement of today which is 100% without God, will never stand. Few understand this, but it is correct.<br /><br />They use Isaiah 17 as a cover though because they want Syria. 1/2 of Syria is within the borders of the original 'promised land' - and they want it.<br /><br /><i>re: we are looking at Ezekiel 38-39 (WWIII)</i><br /><br />To try and be more clear, while it appears that a 'WWIII' is coming, it definitely is not Ez. 38-39. Ez. 38-39 is after the millennial kingdom. They just want people to think it is E38-39, for the reasons described in the post above and 1st reply above - essentially as a ruse by the (unbelieving) 'Zionists Jews' to submit the world unto themselves - all of it i.e P83, I17 is part of the overall scheme.<br /><br /><i>re: involve the downfall of America</i><br /><br />The fourth beast of Daniel 7 will 'devour the whole earth'. This means every nation on the face of the globe must be dissolved. It is to become a true one-world system at that point. This HAS TO COME before anything else can. WWIII so-called will very likely cause this, scripted for that very reason actually - but again, this will not be E38-39. Think of it as Daniel 7 - that's what it is. After that the whole earth will be reordered into the ten-kings/toes per scripture. Think NAU for America - something like that - also Agenda21 which is the 'blueprint' for the one-world system. After that at a later point the 11th will come - and he will then at some point mount the Rev. 6 white horse, and then it's on...<br /><br />Watching Daniel 7 is where we are at today - and the fourth beast still trying to finish stomping the nations. That is exactly where things are.<br /><br />line upon line precept upon precept - Isaiah 28:10<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-37846141720687224452014-03-27T08:43:40.655-10:002014-03-27T08:43:40.655-10:00Tom, very, very interesting. So, based on your un...Tom, very, very interesting. So, based on your understanding of Daniel 7:24 (I read your link), is the collapse of the entire-world system and the rise of the ten kings BEFORE Rev. 6 (opening of the Seals) takes place? It is my understanding that the rider on the white horse is the AC (the 11th king to rise) (Rev. 6:2) I am asking because the Church is removed prior to the opening of the seals (chapter 6). I'm also trying to understand where Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17:1 come into this picture now that we are looking at Ezekial 38-39 (WWIII) to take place concerning the entire world-system collapse - rise of the Phoenix (NWO). I apologize for so many questions, but I am really trying to get a better understanding of where we are on God's prophetic time clock. It sounds to me like Ezekiel 38-39 will involve the downfall of America. We can see this coming with the current events in Crimea and Ukraine and the support of China, backing up Russia. Could you shed a little more light on this? This will help me better understand your commentaries concerning these matters that you will be posting in the future. Tom, thank you for your patience with me. You have given me some serious food for thought that I had not considered before. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-18484220942205277372014-03-26T16:19:08.325-10:002014-03-26T16:19:08.325-10:00To answer your question as simply as possible in a...To answer your question as simply as possible in a comment here, everything that is happening is working toward fulfilling prophecy - just not the way it is being made out to be. The correct way to interpret these events is given in the seventh chapter of Daniel - in particular the "fourth beast" that devours the whole earth. It is covered in a concise manner in this post: <a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2008/03/ten-kingsshall-arise-dan-724.html" rel="nofollow">Ten kings shall arise - Dan. 7:24</a><br /><br />Briefly what that passage in Daniel 7 says is that the entire world-system must be collapsed, and after that happens be reordered under the rule of "ten kings". After those ten kings come to power over the reordered earth, then and only then will come forth 'another' [king]...who "shall speak great words against the most high". That of course would be the Antichrist.<br /><br />The world today is still in the pre-stages of the final collapse, and we do not see it ruled by "ten kings" or yet divided into the ten toes of Daniel 2. <br /><br />But - that is where the 'scripted' WWWIII comes in - that final collapse would be brought about by a WWIII, with reordering to follow. Out of that would come the ten-king division, and later the rise of the eleventh, the Antichrist - according to Daniel's prophecy.<br /><br />The 'winners' of 'WWIII' would be the world rulers - which is the goal of the unbelieving Zionist Jews and where all this ties in. Making the world believe that God has done it (faking Gog-Magog with the Jews winning), the plan is to set up the throne of David in Jerusalem and rule the planet. The one who will eventually take that throne will be the 'eleventh' spoken of by Daniel - the Jewish king Antichrist. <br /><br />That is the very basics of it. It appears that the world today is just prior to the final devouring of the whole earth as spoken of by Daniel in the 7th chapter [link above]. The rest happens only after that and after the ten kings arise. No "signs", no Gog-Magog, no Antichrist is possible yet, according to the scripture. If we adhere closely to the Word of God we remain on solid ground. <br /><br />A few other posts where these things are touched on <a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2013/02/obama-unbreakable-alliance-israel-trip.html" rel="nofollow">Obama-Israel trip</a>; <a href="http://anothervoicerev184.blogspot.com/2012/07/london-2012-zion-olympics-and-bible.html" rel="nofollow">Zion and prophecy</a><br /><br />Those posts are also multi-linked to a number of other posts, each of which gives a little more of the complete picture. <br /><br />And the return of the Lord Jesus Christ for his bride is of course imminent. <br /><br />Lord willing, and as He leads, more will be forthcoming to bring it all together.<br /><br />Rev. 18:4tom m.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15599745604750315747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5190850745642630460.post-65920291564858508052014-03-26T10:36:27.500-10:002014-03-26T10:36:27.500-10:00Tom, that was certainly an interesting commentary ...Tom, that was certainly an interesting commentary to say the least. Then what can we expect next if the blood moons, Gog and Magog war (WWIII),and the signs in the sun, moon and stars are all a hoax (the coming deception)? Based on your understanding, where are we in all of this? I realize the players are being positioned on the chessboard. Could you give us a little more insight as to where you are coming from? Thanks much. God Bless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com